Re: New Doctrine Emerges: NOT Forgiven at Repentan
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Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams
Here we go. There was a little girl who went out to play in her brand new dress. She saw a mud puddle and thought "Why not?" and jumped right in. She got her dress filthy. Realizing the wrong she had done, she went to her father in tears of true remorse, saying "Daddy please forgive me!"(repentance). Her dad's heart melts and he says "I forgive you."(forgiveness of sin). She is forgiven and won't be punished, but her dress is still filthy and is not presentable. Her dad would still be ashamed of her in public. Her dad then washes the dress with a healthy dose of spray-n-wash(baptism), and the dress comes out sparkling clean(remission of sin). He then plants a device in the dress(Spirit) that sounds an audible and visible alarm whenever she goes near the mud again(power over sin).
Repentance= forgiveness of sin
Water Baptism in Jesus' Name= remission(washing away) of sin
Holy Spirit Baptism= power over sin
Good post.
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Re: New Doctrine Emerges: NOT Forgiven at Repentan
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Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams
Here we go. There was a little girl who went out to play in her brand new dress. She saw a mud puddle and thought "Why not?" and jumped right in. She got her dress filthy. Realizing the wrong she had done, she went to her father in tears of true remorse, saying "Daddy please forgive me!"(repentance). Her dad's heart melts and he says "I forgive you."(forgiveness of sin). She is forgiven and won't be punished, but her dress is still filthy and is not presentable. Her dad would still be ashamed of her in public. Her dad then washes the dress with a healthy dose of spray-n-wash(baptism), and the dress comes out sparkling clean(remission of sin). He then plants a device in the dress(Spirit) that sounds an audible and visible alarm whenever she goes near the mud again(power over sin).
Repentance= forgiveness of sin
Water Baptism in Jesus' Name= remission(washing away) of sin
Holy Spirit Baptism= power over sin
Re: New Doctrine Emerges: NOT Forgiven at Repentan
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Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams
Here we go. There was a little girl who went out to play in her brand new dress. She saw a mud puddle and thought "Why not?" and jumped right in. She got her dress filthy. Realizing the wrong she had done, she went to her father in tears of true remorse, saying "Daddy please forgive me!"(repentance). Her dad's heart melts and he says "I forgive you."(forgiveness of sin). She is forgiven and won't be punished, but her dress is still filthy and is not presentable. Her dad would still be ashamed of her in public. Her dad then washes the dress with a healthy dose of spray-n-wash(baptism), and the dress comes out sparkling clean(remission of sin). He then plants a device in the dress(Spirit) that sounds an audible and visible alarm whenever she goes near the mud again(power over sin).
Repentance= forgiveness of sin
Water Baptism in Jesus' Name= remission(washing away) of sin
Holy Spirit Baptism= power over sin
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Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge
Good post.
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Cute anecdote ... NO BIBLE.
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Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge
Find a different forum man.
Your clueless.
Dan, I don't think you should leave the forum..you know I love you hon, BUT I think it was an excellent anaology and I do not think a person is saved at belief...or else the devil would be saved also. He that believeth and is baptized...shall be; Mark 16:16, John 3:3, 5, Acts 2:38 & 39. I am not a stepper...but I know if you believe you will obey.
Blessings, Rhoni
Table of the Eternal Spirit Act 29:20
Re: New Doctrine Emerges: NOT Forgiven at Repentan
Dan,
I worked a 12 hour shift and have lost the energy to sharpen swords with you tonight.
So just to get started here are my premises in the form of a syllogism:
First a presupposition: Remission and Forgiveness is the same thing, they come from the same Greek word. This is not to say a Greek word cannot have a variety of meanings, but the meanings of "aphesis" are all very similar: release, pardon, cancellation, forgiveness, remission and the majority of the time are linked with sin. (I would like to see someone present a contrary opinion with scriptural proof.)
1) Sins are remitted by the applied blood of Jesus Christ.
2) Remission of sins takes place at water baptism in Jesus name.
3) Therefore, the blood of Christ is applied at water baptism.
I'll give scriptural proof for these premises tomorrow.
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, BUT I think it was an excellent anaology and I do not think a person is saved at belief...or else the devil would be saved also
My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. 
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