What would it take for you to get back into the UPC???

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Well, we now have two new options!! Eventually, we would like to be all over the place. What we're hoping to do is have other campuses with Eddie on the big screen, but there would be live praise & worship, live altar calls, etc. Everything would be live except the preaching. We have just started one, and are hopefully going to start another one soon. It's kind of a new concept, but it's working all over the U.S. We have other churches that are not using this concept (and probably will not ever), but I think it would help us all to have one vision and one direction. Anyway, we're excited about it!!

Hey maybe we can join you..we got a paid for building on ten acres and the piano's paid for too.

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

What would it take for you to get back into the UPC?

For me it would take a paradim change in the culture brought on by a change in the attitudes and perceptions of the entire organization toward mandating and defining a corporate holiness.

It would take the church giving holiness back to the saints of the living God for me to get back to it.

What I said is not very easy to reconcile, it has roots going to China...

Money.All I have to do is call the presbyter and renew my lic.I don't know though if I want to be that restricted about where I preach anymore.I like to go where the door opens.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

I have never heard of the Heritage Homestead .......

So it has roots in the UPCI....hence now it is repressed and oppressed.....

These roots are responsible for this......

So one must connect then that Kenneth Phillips and his likes are oppressed due to thier roots in the UPCI.......

Do you reckon oppression and repression might come from the old time process called backsliding.....

This is not an observation or a judgment......

Just a thought....

My, My you are jumping to conclusions. Never made the connection that you describe, however all the women had the same hair style and very similar shoes and clothes. They have taken it a step further than the UPC and yes forced conformity is very repressive. HH is extremely repressive.

Backsliding from what? I have never left my relationship with Jesus, further it is deeper and more significant today than ever before. Whether you want to admit it or not there has been plenty of repressiveness in some quarters of the UPC. When you focus on outward appearances as the standard of holiness you are way off base.

I don't think that KP focuses on outward appearances as the standard of holiness however I haven't been to WOP in almost 30 years so I am not the judge of that. I have been to HH just last weekend so I will speak concerning that place.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Well, we now have two new options!! Eventually, we would like to be all over the place. What we're hoping to do is have other campuses with Eddie on the big screen, but there would be live praise & worship, live altar calls, etc. Everything would be live except the preaching. We have just started one, and are hopefully going to start another one soon. It's kind of a new concept, but it's working all over the U.S. We have other churches that are not using this concept (and probably will not ever), but I think it would help us all to have one vision and one direction. Anyway, we're excited about it!!

NOW we're talkin', a church pastored by someone 1,200 miles away and through a big screen!!! Wooo hoooo!

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by CC1

Back to the subject of the thread.

I have pondered yet longer and have one more scenario wherein I would go back to the UPC.

If I were in a terrible accident or suffered from some terrible illness that made traveling the 32 miles to Christ Church impossible then I would temporarily attend the UPC church just five miles from my home. I visited once with a UPC relative and it is a nice church. Plus I have heard good things about the pastor from an esteemed poster here at AFF.

Here is another scenario...I could return to the UPC if the church I was in announced it was leaving the UPC immediately after that service.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Well, we now have two new options!! Eventually, we would like to be all over the place. What we're hoping to do is have other campuses with Eddie on the big screen, but there would be live praise & worship, live altar calls, etc. Everything would be live except the preaching. We have just started one, and are hopefully going to start another one soon. It's kind of a new concept, but it's working all over the U.S. We have other churches that are not using this concept (and probably will not ever), but I think it would help us all to have one vision and one direction. Anyway, we're excited about it!!

Sherri, Wow this is quite a concept!

Please tell me what the positives are to this approach - because the negatives seem apparent to me.

I am not downing the idea - really, but would like to know more. Would your husband ever have personal contact with these members?

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Sherri, Wow this is quite a concept!

Please tell me what the positives are to this approach - because the negatives seem apparent to me.

I am not downing the idea - really, but would like to know more. Would your husband ever have personal contact with these members?

Isn't this the same concept as a man pastoring a church say...in San Francisco and he flies in every week or so, yet continues to travel the U.S. evangelizing the rest of the time?

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

What would it take for you to get back into the UPC?

For me it would take a paradim change in the culture brought on by a change in the attitudes and perceptions of the entire organization toward mandating and defining a corporate holiness.

It would take the church giving holiness back to the saints of the living God for me to get back to it.

What I said is not very easy to reconcile, it has roots going to China...

If the rapture took place and at the marriage supper of the Lamb the hall is titled UPCI!

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Well, we now have two new options!! Eventually, we would like to be all over the place. What we're hoping to do is have other campuses with Eddie on the big screen, but there would be live praise & worship, live altar calls, etc. Everything would be live except the preaching. We have just started one, and are hopefully going to start another one soon. It's kind of a new concept, but it's working all over the U.S. We have other churches that are not using this concept (and probably will not ever), but I think it would help us all to have one vision and one direction. Anyway, we're excited about it!!

Hey, a new twist on the Branham Method of Church.

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

NOW we're talkin', a church pastored by someone 1,200 miles away and through a big screen!!! Wooo hoooo!

No, silly, we have a campus pastor on site. He does the pastoral care work and some of the midweek teaching. Eddie does the Sunday vision casting and preaching. Every location still HAS to have a resident pastor. You can't get off that easy, Carp!