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Old 05-23-2008, 12:53 PM
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Someone with some sense explain to me the differnence between a business that provides health insurance telling people they cannot smoke and the States and the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT taxing tobacco at extremely high levels?

please...anybody? anybody?
Smokers cost not only insurance companies but also the state.
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Old 05-23-2008, 12:53 PM
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If I own a company, by the constitution, I should be allowed to make what ever rules I desire. If you want to work for me, then you abide by those rules. The choice is yours, no one is making you work for me. If you want to make the rules, start your own company.
If you can tell me how to live while at home…you better be paying me while I’m watching NBA on TV.

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I am against taxes that are not allowed by the people. We must have taxes in order to have a strong military for protection and in order to have infrastructure.
That makes sense.

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I am against all income taxes. They are against our constitution.
Who told you that the income tax is against the Constitution? The 16th Amendment of my Constitution states:

Amendment XVI
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.


Now I think there might be a decent case made for how this shouldn’t have become an Amendment…but like it or not…it’s now part of the Constitution. Of course…this is what can happen when you go around Amending the Constitution. Handle with care.

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I am for sales taxes that have been levied by the people (voted on). In this case, I do not have to pay taxes if I choose. I do not have to buy anything, that's my choice.
The idea of a national sales tax is a joke. Look at FactCheck on it.
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communism is not dead.
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Yes, I am a proponet of the fair tax. A bill will soon be voted on in Mo to do away with state income taxes and go to the fair tax.
It would be nice to see how it works on the state level. But here’s a prediction. If the state constitution allows the state to collect income taxes you’ll need to do two things. You’ll have to pass the state sales tax and then amend the state constitution. I predict…the will push through the state sales tax…but the amendment effort will fail. And you’ll end up with both a state sales tax and an income tax.
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Smokers cost not only insurance companies but also the state.
smokers also cost businesses who pay for their insurance but you are against a business but not the state?


which i understand completly. your ilk trust the state and hate the business.
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Old 05-23-2008, 12:56 PM
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im going to have to shoot myself. grass hopper said something that aint wrong.

the constitution does in fact allow for income tax. egads.
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democrats are the most controlling people in the world, they must keep the masses dependent on them to procure there votes, dt
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democrats are the most controlling people in the world, they must keep the masses dependent on them to procure there votes, dt
Anyone who would ever consider voting for a democrat ought to be forced to watch 5 hours of Henry Waxman in commettee meetings.

it will cure that sickness!
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Anyone who would ever consider voting for a democrat ought to be forced to watch 5 hours of Henry Waxman in commettee meetings.

it will cure that sickness!
eww, i think i am gonna hurl, i wont do it, vote dem or watche that buffoon, dt
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Old 05-23-2008, 01:00 PM
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eww, i think i am gonna hurl, i wont do it, vote dem or watche that buffoon, dt
what you aint a fan of Nosehair man?
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