Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to keep?

[OneAccord]

Brother Eckstadt,

Without reading your entire post, the answer is, I don't know what a woman trimming her hair or wearing a wig has to do with salvation. Personally, I can answer with two words: Absolutely NOTHING.

[Dan'D]

Originally Posted by OneAccord

Well, my wife cut her hair. And she wore a wig. Sorry she didn't meet YOUR standards. Note as I said, YOUR STANDARD. Not the Bibles. Yours.

Oh, I forgot to say. She had cancer. Radiation and Chemo destroyed her hair. So she cut off.. no shaved ... what was left of her her hair and we bought her a wig. Since this is, at least a your view, a salvational issue, could you explain her spiritual condition? Or, is there a loop hole in YOUR Standads is such cases?

She obviously has extinuating sirsumstance.. In your wife case she did not choose this.

A women cutting her hair just for cutting her hair is a Bible issue.

Dan'D

[Dan'D]

Originally Posted by OneAccord

Brother, without reading your entire post, the answer is, I don't know what a woman trimming her hair or wearing a wig has to do with salvation. Personally, I can answer with two words: Absolutely NOTHING.

Is trimming not cutting.

Cutting the hair on a women is a Bible issue. not my words but the Bible's

Wearing a wig unless she had cancer is a problem.

Dan'D

[OneAccord]

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

I loved this analogy, brother!

Glad you liked my Peanut Brittle analogy. It seems, in light of some of what I read here tonight, I was speaking "prophetically". Some really are nuttier than others.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Dan'D

Is trimming not cutting.

Cutting the hair on a women is a Bible issue. not my words but the Bible's

Wearing a wig unless she had cancer is a problem.

Dan'D

I would love to see you show Bible for someone not wearing a wig. It is no different than using hairspray or wearing deoderant or for women wearing panty hose.

[Dan'D]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

What again is the salvational issue that will be waged against a woman for cutting her hair?

Will a saint go to hell if they do not pay their tithe to the penney?

Will a saint go to hell if they do not witness?

Will a saint go to hell if they do not believe in the Rapture as being literal?

Will a saint go to hell if they are baptized in Jesus name after they believe they are saved?

Will a saint go to hell if they do not give away one coat if they have 2 and see a person in need?

Will a saint go to hell if they see a child suffering and then will not help?

Will a saint go to hell for speaking ill against a brother or sister?

Will a saint go to hell for being covetous of anothers gifts or blessings?

If a woman is not cutting her hair and not actively doing many of the things above she might as well shave her head.

because the adorning of standards does not save you...

I could go on and on.

Actions speak much louder than how you dress and present yourself in the public mirror for the church ladies to evaluate.

I would address character first to build christians and not dress to hide character.

I think the Church as I knew it. (UPCI)

Mandated standards without the character.

The character was measured by how well a person adopted that pastor's flavor of control.

The more on the fringe a pastor would take the congregation the more he could evaluate those who were in total submission to his authority.

Many times not preaching the simple character of a Christian seeking to be Christ like.

They most often preached dress as holiness long before many of the new saints could change their character from the flaws of sin...

Many would then try to take on the robe of standards as a way of grading their own commitment to God.

When they would fall short they took on the nature of Spiritual
self-depredation.

When other so called perfect saints would give them that look.

It caused doubt to rise up in their hearts.

I am just not good enough look at me...

When all along they should have been working on the attributes of God.

Why do many new saints in the church fail in our ranks?

Because the decipleship classes focus on how they should dress first.

The second thing they are taught is tithing.

If they are not paying then they are not in complete submission.

No they may have their family outside the church telling that paying their tithe is stupid.

It might take them time to warm up to these new ideas in their lives.

But pastors and board members view them as weak.

Judge the progress of their character and growth and not their surrender to your point system.

So the other UPCI church across town does not think that the standards are not being preached at my church...

It is not the preaching of standards that I want to correct.

It is the mandate of standards before the character teaching.

I know you will tell me that the character is a given and is taught..

I just have never seen the importance first over church standards...

It takes both standards & character or the transformation is not complete.

If we allow God to take care of the inside we will want to take care of the outside. In that order.

Dan'D

[Dan'D]

Originally Posted by CC1

I would love to see you show Bible for someone not wearing a wig. It is no different than using hairspray or wearing deoderant or for women wearing panty hose.

Wig - Deoderant / Hair spray my what a stretch.

Dan'D

[Dan'D]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

My wife cuts her hair about once a month. I would like her hair longer but when I mention it I get the "your not the one who has to get ready in the morning" response.

Not my words but the Bible's.
Dan'D

[OneAccord]

Originally Posted by Dan'D

Is trimming not cutting.

Cutting the hair on a women is a Bible issue. not my words but the Bible's

Wearing a wig unless she had cancer is a problem.

Dan'D

Thats what I love about these rigid, inflexible STANDARDS of man. They are as flimsy as the loopholes they are made of. "A woman cannot wear a wig, unless..." Where in the world (because I already know it didn't come from the Bible) do you get that women are forbidden to wear a wig... unless...of course.... (Mustn't forget the ever present loophole).

Sorry for the arguing. Its really unbecoming. Just go ahead and live by YOUR standards and loopholes. Just glad I don't have to live by them.

[Dan'D]

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

You should contact Anthony in LA, so he can inform his mother VM that she shouldn't wear her wig anymore. I am sure he would appreciate your words of wisdom and direction regarding this matter.

Let me guess, Cancer.

Lets get real / her hair lost was not on her own accord.
Dan'D