I'm So Glad We Had This Time Together... - Page 14

Theresa · #**131** 01-10-2008, 02:21 PM

why do we continue to discuss this? seriously?

I cant do it...*sigh*

TRFrance · #**132** 01-10-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

As far as name calling, if the man is a homosexual, am I name calling?? And would it be accurate to call a homosexual a pervert???

The noun pervert is of course based on the verb from, "to pervert", which means

1 a: to cause to turn aside or away from what is good or true or morally right : corrupt b: to cause to turn aside or away from what is generally done or accepted : misdirect2 a: to divert to a wrong end or purpose : misuse b: to twist the meaning or sense of : misinterpret

If God has designed sex between men and women, (as scripture and nature itself make very clear), then homosexuality is by nature a perversion of God's intent for sexuality, thus it would not be incorrect to refer to such a person as a pervert.

Truth hurts sometimes.
It's strong language,I suppose. But Jesus used strong language too, didn't he? ... as did John the Baptist, Paul, Jude, etc...

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Originally Posted by Rev

Truth is now under constant attack. I heard a UPC evangelist and pastor just tonight say that a man that had water poured on him was saved, the other one said that a man that was never baptized was saved. And you wonder why some men are pulling out?

Its starting to look more and more to me like were witnessing the coming great falling away/apostasy that Paul spoke of.

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TRFrance · #**133** 01-10-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

I personally do not care of LW has a homosexual disposition as long as he is repented of it and keeps it under the blood. Is he openly gay? Does anyone know for a fact LW has continuing homosexual relations? How many of us were fornicators and adulterers and if not for walking with the Lord could slip back into that lifestyle?

Prax... this is the problem here.

LW had a very well known and visible ministry.

When he fell into moral failure it was also became widlely known (within Apostolic /UPC circles primarily)

Therefore, if he has indeed repented, it is fair to expect him to at least once make some kind of public admission of wrongdoing and repentance. From all that we know, that has not happened... not in front of any church... not by a statement on his website... nothing.

Until LW publicly acknowledges his sin and the error of his ways, it is natural that Bible-believing saints will be skeptical of his "ministry". New Testament teaching is very clear that unrepentant "saints" should be treated as outcasts by the rest of the body, until they repent of their sinful ways. (Matt 18/ 1Cor 5)

We would hold a minister of the word to that standard. Why shouldn't a prominent "minister" of music be held to a similar standard?

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StMark · #**134** 01-10-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Theresa

I dont think ANYONE knows the truth about everything.

No one knows the whole story but LW..and God

Are you 100% sure of this???

Pianoman,are you reading this???

stmatthew · #**135** 01-10-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Prax... this is the problem here.

LW had a very well known and visible ministry.

When he fell into moral failure it was also became widlely known (within Apostolic /UPC circles primarily)

Therefore, if he has indeed repented, it is fair to expect him to at least once make some kind of public admission of wrongdoing and repentance. From all that we know, that has not happened... not in front of any church... not by a statement on his website... nothing.

Until LW publicly acknowledges his sin and the error of his ways, it is natural that Bible-believing saints will be skeptical of his "ministry". New Testament teaching is very clear that unrepentant "saints" should be treated as outcasts by the rest of the body, until they repent of their sinful ways. (Matt 18/ 1Cor 5)

We would hold a minister of the word to that standard. Why shouldn't a prominent "minister" of music be held to a similar standard?

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good post!

StillStanding · #**136** 01-10-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark

Are you 100% sure of this???

Pianoman,are you reading this???

hahahahaha! I've heard many stories from many different people. I had someone share an incident with me that I KNOW to be true.

The problem with rumors is that they can easily get s-t-r-e-t-c-h-e-d! I know more than I'm willing to talk about on this forum.

Oh.....and it goes beyond just LW!!!

StMark · #**137** 01-10-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman

hahahahaha! I've heard many stories from many different people. I had someone share an incident with me that I KNOW to be true.

The problem with rumors is that they can easily get s-t-r-e-t-c-h-e-d! I know more than I'm willing to talk about on this forum.

Oh.....and it goes beyond just LW!!!

that you're willing to talk about??? well spill it then

I know you know of one incident that happend on a tour that is 100% truth.