Can Apostolics be Democrats?

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Hawkman

I can't even believe that we are discussing the merits of socialism! If the democrats have their way, the US will be socialistic and everyone will be paupers except the elite. Form the womb to the tomb, that is how the dems want to take care of us and keep us under their governmental thumb. Boy, I just can't wait to totally lose my freedom and become like a communist country. Why don't we just quit fooling around and ask Hugo Chavez to take the presidency? Sheesh!

This is where you and I will have to agree about the democrats. However, I don't think that we have a better chance at freedom with the republicans.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I gotta say, Rhoni, THAT was a golden nugget for the liberals...be they D's or be they R's, and most of them are probably D's!!

My Pastor spoke on not allowing Christ to be taken out of Christmas so I purchased the only Christmas cards I could find which stated it was Christ's birthday and I sent them out to a few friends. They were cheap and on recycled paper but I just couldn't send out Happy Holidays and feel good about it.

I am moderate. I am Republican and proud of it.

Blessings, Rhoni

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Since the Democratic party platform is primarily liberal to the core, believing in:

Abortion on demand
Gay Marriage & gays as a special interest group
BIG government
More government control of citizen's lives
Silencing the Christian voice in America
Removing the 10 commandments

and a host of other causes that are un-biblical..........can a true Apostolic be a Democrat who believes in these things and please God?



Just wondering. This will be the first election that I will be voting as a registered Independent.

NO they can't, if they are they are democrats they are not real/true Christians...IMO

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker

NO they can't, if they are they are democrats they are not real/true Christians...IMO

You go Girl!!!!!!!

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker

NO they can't, if they are they are democrats they are not real/true Christians...IMO

Though I am to the right of Pat Buchanan I could not in good consience say this... Only God knows the hearts and motives involved -- IMO

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Hmmmmm....I'm wondering, CH, are you a Democrat? Do you feel that hatred and vitriol is being spewed upon you?

I'm primarily a Republican because I've voted Rep. more than Dem. I'm registered R but in all honesty I'm more independent. And yes, with terms like DemonCrat etc. I know from talking with other Christians that many Christians feel religiously condemned by brothers and sisters in Christ based merely upon their political opinion.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

My Pastor spoke on not allowing Christ to be taken out of Christmas so I purchased the only Christmas cards I could find which stated it was Christ's birthday and I sent them out to a few friends. They were cheap and on recycled paper but I just couldn't send out Happy Holidays and feel good about it.

I am moderate. I am Republican and proud of it.

Blessings, Rhoni

Rhoni,
I agree. These folks that think they should not celebrate the birth of Christ because of Pagen this and pagen that.

They are allowing the message of salvation be lost around the world.

It has been stated that in America they are doing more to bury their God than to celebrate his birth.

That was from a muslim cleric from Iraq.

They love the fact that even socalled Christians will walk away from a Christian holiday.

Keep it up.

I agree with you.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

I'm primarily a Republican because I've voted Rep. more than Dem. I'm registered R but in all honesty I'm more independent. And yes, with terms like DemonCrat etc. I know from talking with other Christians that many Christians feel religiously condemned by brothers and sisters in Christ based merely upon their political opinion.

I know one thing I will not vote for a Democrat.

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

Didn't you read my posts?


If I recall correctly, it was in 1991 or 92 that an important piece of legislature authored by the Republicans in the Senate to overturn partial birth abortion that was subsequently blocked by the Democrats in the name of Right to Choose, read Right to Kill. I recall still the Senator Bob Smith a heroric Republican who stood for over three hours filberbusting against an amendment that would have virtually killed the bill, authored by a Democrat.

Actually there's more to it than that. The SCOTUS has specified what kind of partial birth abortion ban would stand the Constitutional muster. The Republicans purposefully drafted a partial birth abortion ban disregarding the SCOTUS and their requirements. Several key Democrats who would like to see a partial birth abortion ban that can pass severely chastized the Republicans for not drafting a ban that would stand against the SCOTUS. So both moderate and leftwing Democrats united to oppose the Republican game. You have to REALLY understand what's happening. It's POLITICS. The Republicans weren't trying to ban partial birth abortion. The Republicans wanted a bill that merely "looked" like a partial birth abortion ban. That would force Democrats to go "on record" against the supposed ban. Also they had insurance. By not meeting the requirements of the SCOTUS Republicans KNEW that the ban would be overturned by the SCOTUS even if it happened to pass. Therefore they can call the Democrats on record and KEEP THE ISSUE ALIVE FOR ANOTHER ELECTION CYCLE. It was playing pure politics with the value of life. Just like with Terri's case.

I recall how passionate he was. I watched as the man pled with the Senate so passionately that I was moved to tears. I had never seen anything like it before nor have I since. I tried to call his office to speak to him...it was so powerful. The wicked, evil, hard-hearted Democrats prevailed. The wicked, grotesque partial birth proceedure continued until it was finally overtuned with a more conservative leaning Supreme Court. There was only a small mention of Senator Smith in the news.

Yep...you believed them. Awww dem poor Repubwicans and dem evwil Democwats. Awwww. Frankly both parties are as morally bankrupt as they come. As time passes I'm sincerely thinking that if any Christian marries their politics with any political party they're hellbound where they stand seeing that they're buying into lies of the world.

Vote what will effect your family personally and then get out of politics bros. It will corrupt you.

I would vote for ANY man or woman, be they Democrat or Republican who will appoint constructionist Justices to the Bench. Let the self-centered, prosperity loving at any cost, addicted to ease and comfort suffer a very hard winter of depression, but for the cause of getting "original intent" judges back on the bench.

Constructionist judges is a mythologica thing used to manipulate weak minded individuals that fail to see that even the so called "constructionist judges" have departed from our founders intentions. For example most believe a "Constructionist judge" will stand to protect marriage. Wrong. A true "Constructionist judge" would rule that the government has no right to regulate marriage in any way shape or form. You have to understand...marriage licenses and marriage laws weren't something on the books until the legislatures were trying to force people to get marriage licenses. Why did they do that? Because they were trying to prevent inter racial marriages. A Constructionist would tell the government to back out of the marriage business entirely. So much for the so called "Constructionist judges".

Just this past week, exclusively Democrats voted against Christianity in Congress. Congress voted in overwhelming favor of Ramadan, the high holy Day and the high holy day of the Hindu religion as well...not ONE Democrat objecting. Then, Christianity's Christmas came up for a vote as to it's importance in American life. Yes, you guessed it. The Democrats voted against putting it on the same level of importance as Ramadan and the Hindu holy day...only Democrats. There were no Republican votes against it. There were a total of NINE DEMOCRATS that voted against Christian's Christmas who voted for recognizing the importance of the heathern religions' importance in America.

I want to know DETAILS please. First, Christmas is an established holiday and the government already recognizes it. Only other traditions are yet to be recognized, therefore it makes perfect sense that they would be presented and voted upon. Those wishing to throw Christmas into the mix are only trying to CREATE the illusion that Democrats "voted against Christmas". Besides...Christmas is a materialistic, largely pagan holiday anyway. For the first fifty years in American history Christians refused to celebrate it. Funny how we buy into everything the Reeps throw at us.

They are Godless...hating the very word Christian. Yet, an Apostolic will vote for these devils for office. I am aghast.

It's an illusion friend. 43% percent of registered Democrats are pro-life. DFLA (Democrats for Life of America) also lists numerous Democrats currently serving who are pro-life. Nearly all the top Republicans up for the Presidential nomination were once Pro-Choice. It's a big game the Republicans play to alienate us from the Democrats by manipulating our religious convictions.

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

I know one thing I will not vote for a Democrat.

I can respect that. I know few Democrats I'd vote for. However, the issue is the outright hatred against fellow Apostolics who might vote Democrat because they're deep into the labor issues or their family is in desperate need of relief when it comes to health insurance and they believe the Democrats might do a better job than the Republicans. It's the hatred I can't respect. Personally I'm a Huckabee fan...but there are two Democrats that could get my attention should Huckabee fail to gain the nomination. Of course if I vote MY conscience on the issue my "brothers" and my "sisters" will make me feel like a second class citizen and call me a two fold child of hell because I didn't vote like them. Honestly...it hurts and I think we need to GROW UP.