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11-27-2012, 12:43 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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11-27-2012, 01:15 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
Hizz people will believe what they want. No one cares about the truth.
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Originally Posted by Hizzangel
I have known Bro. Mooney for many years. Having said that, I doubt that he felt "stabbed big time" after hearing Bro. Black had resigned. Instead, I would tend to believe that he reached out to a fellow minister of the gospel, who was in need of prayer and a friend. I have heard of many others who have, and I respect them for doing what the church was called to do. It's easy to go on with life and pretend nothing happened....like the person didnt exist, that in one fail swoop every good thing in their ministry was wiped out because they fell. However- that's not the church we are suppose to be.
I've still not heard that the church board or whomever has acknowledged everything that has been stated on here that happened did in fact happen. However, I know that while failures are nothing to overlook or sweep under the rug, thAt there are also a lot of untruths out there... A lot. For some reason, we as humans find the truth far less believable that the lies. I'm not saying that something didnt in fact happen. I'm just saying, having been close to a similar situation...about 90 % of what you hear as facts, are simply not that at all. I'm just really careful to believe something 100% until I hear it from the person.
Has the church made a formal statement regarding the situation?
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11-27-2012, 01:19 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
tv,
What exactly is your purpose for continuing to post on this thread? Change someone's mind? Stop everyone from talking about what has happened in Memphis?
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11-27-2012, 01:55 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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tv,
What exactly is your purpose for continuing to post on this thread? Change someone's mind? Stop everyone from talking about what has happened in Memphis?
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He is bored. His dog died so he doesn't have anything to kick so he comes here and wrangles senselessly against freedom of speech...which is why he is able to come here and wrangle senselessly... 
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11-27-2012, 02:44 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Abortion and homosexuality are legal in this country. Maybe Barb should kill unborn babies and have an affair with Ellen Degeneres. Go for it Barb. As long as it is legal in this country, AYR is okay with it.
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Troy,
I like you, and I do think you have some good things to say. But you say them with such venom and aggressiveness, your message gets lost in your method.
You're falling right into the sterotype of the "I'm delivered and liberal, so anyone who still holds a standard is a complete and utter moron" that conservatives use to paint all of us libs with a broad brush. You also have very little tolerance for anyone who disagrees with you, and that just fans the flames.
Please heed some friendly counsel, and temper your words.....the stuff you have to contribute is too important to get thrown out with the bathwater, and that's what I see happening.
Thanks for listening.
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11-27-2012, 03:09 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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He is bored. His dog died so he doesn't have anything to kick so he comes here and wrangles senselessly against freedom of speech...which is why he is able to come here and wrangle senselessly... |
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11-27-2012, 03:13 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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11-27-2012, 05:27 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
Dillusional AYR? I don't recall discussing my views on tithing or incorporation with you. Talk about twisting, you got to feel like a pretzel by now. Tithing or incorporation has nothing to do with encouraging gossip instead of healing.
How am I twisting scripture when I point how God feels abotu gossip? What part of scripture was twisted when I pointed out Jesus response to his impending betrayal?
You were the one who said free speech was legal. That's your excuse for disregarding what scripture says about gossip. Apples to apples. God hates gossip as much as he hates homosexuality and abortion. What's stopping you from shacking up with Perez Hilton? Why not whip up a batch of abortion pills in your laboratory? The Constitutuin protects gays and baby killers.
I know your kind. You're not much different than TB. Acting like a christian is a lot easier than being one.
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There you go with your polarization of people again, tv1a. If anybody does twisting of scriptures and of things people post...IT IS YOU. You are comparing our specified legal constitutional right of the freedom of speech with abortion and homosexuality (which is not a specified constitutional right) is comparing apples with bananas.
Incorporating Christ's church into a business solely to become tax-exempt is also legal and you are ok with that. But there is no scriptural basis for that at all despite you reading between the lines and digging out some obscure meaning of acceptance of that after you mangle the scriptures to do that.
Tithing is not even a new testament apostolic commandment, although you seem to be quite fine with extorting money out of people's pockets.
If you want the tithe, then you should accept the firstfruits of the livestock and produce from the field as the scriptures outline. Oh but then you would have to keep the law.
I've seen people like you ALL the years of my life. The very same people (just like you) who try to shut others up, usually do so because they are doing something unsavory themselves and do not want the scrutiny of the people to shed light upon their own deeds.
If Barb does not have the right to comment about situations, then you do not have the right to tell her so either.
By the way, you stirred the pot on this subject once again. Why don't you do what the admins asked us to do and start another thread instead of keeping your garbage going on this one?
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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11-27-2012, 06:06 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
I appreciate your candor. To clear up some things again. I'm not against conservatives. I support personal standards. The Bible supports convictions based on consistent application of principles. I defend the right for someone to have different personal standards. I don't agree my personal covictions is your ticket to heaven.
The Memphis Mess is a legalistic leaning church who had a legalistic leaning pastor. If I am such a liberal, should I hop on the bandwagon bury the knife deeper into their chest. I can't do that. When I look thru the tearful eyes of Jesus, I wonder what I can say to make this better. What can I do ease the pain? Talking about someoine's Facebook photo doesn't help one bit. Whining about the kind of car the preacher drive doesn't help the healing. According to some people, the preacher shouldn't crack a smile.
Thanks for the advice. I'll see what I can do about toning down a bit.
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Troy,
I like you, and I do think you have some good things to say. But you say them with such venom and aggressiveness, your message gets lost in your method.
You're falling right into the sterotype of the "I'm delivered and liberal, so anyone who still holds a standard is a complete and utter moron" that conservatives use to paint all of us libs with a broad brush. You also have very little tolerance for anyone who disagrees with you, and that just fans the flames.
Please heed some friendly counsel, and temper your words.....the stuff you have to contribute is too important to get thrown out with the bathwater, and that's what I see happening.
Thanks for listening.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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11-27-2012, 07:11 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Troy,
I like you, and I do think you have some good things to say. But you say them with such venom and aggressiveness, your message gets lost in your method.
You're falling right into the sterotype of the "I'm delivered and liberal, so anyone who still holds a standard is a complete and utter moron" that conservatives use to paint all of us libs with a broad brush. You also have very little tolerance for anyone who disagrees with you, and that just fans the flames.
Please heed some friendly counsel, and temper your words.....the stuff you have to contribute is too important to get thrown out with the bathwater, and that's what I see happening.
Thanks for listening.
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Excellent advise. He has pretty much reached that rubicon upon which crossing I no longer pay attention to or respect a poster's posts whether they be conservative or liberal.
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