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10-11-2017, 06:32 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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10-11-2017, 06:33 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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10-11-2017, 06:33 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
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10-11-2017, 06:39 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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I dont need anyone to mediate for me except Jesus Christ.
Have you prayed to your mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus, today?
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Does anyone on AFF do this?
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10-11-2017, 06:47 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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I dont need anyone to mediate for me except Jesus Christ.
Have you prayed to your mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus, today?
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Sure did, almost my whole drive from Gurnee, IL to my home in Wisconsin. My God Jesus and I had a great talk.
But, The Sean, you speaking of yourself in the third person, complementing your own posts even with emojis, and not caring if anyone agrees with your position is not something to brag about. If anything, these are signs you might be suffering from a Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
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10-11-2017, 07:30 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
LOL....we are having a good time, huh TK?
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10-11-2017, 07:48 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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LOL....we are having a good time, huh TK?
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"We are?" The Sean, are you speaking in the third person again?
The Sean having a good time with himself:
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
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10-11-2017, 07:55 PM
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Not a lie.
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It is a false accusation for you to say we ignore the mediator. There is a mediator. You think the distinction is between persons.... the man Jesus as one person distinct from God. But the bible does not say that. It only says the man Christ Jesus is the mediator, but He's not a distinct person from God and the bible never says He is.
But we understand the Son is mediator not the Father. And although the position of Father is not the position of Son, and although we do not consider the Father as mediator while we do consider the Son as Mediator, we see them as one person. Now, here is where your reasoning is limited and you cannot fathom God being able to accomplish both positions and still be one person. Your logical flaw is thinking in terms of people. A single HUMAN person cannot be both mediator and the one whom the mediator stands between for us. People are human in nature and are unable to accomplish that. But what is impossible for humans to accomplish is not for God. Why do you insist God does not have the ability to manifest as a human being and be so complete a manifestation as to be able to act as mediator while at the same time remain God?
Humans who do not have divine nature by sheer virtue of the definition of humanity cannot manifest like that. But God is not human. God manifests his single person using humanity as mediator, and that manifestation is so thorough and real that such a manifestation can actually mediate between God and man.
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I teach(1st century oneness) that Jesus mediates actively to God for us, indentically as the scriptures say.
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Of course. No one denies that. But the ability to be able to do that as a manifestation of God's person is something you cannot grasp because you limit God to the limitations of humans who cannot do that.
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Modern Oneness teaches it stopped at the cross, since there is no separate mediator.
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You have no clue about oneness, modern or otherwise. Jesus is Mediator RIGHT NOW as a man, In fact it never stopped at the cross, but STARTED AFTER THE CROSS. It was not until Christ the man entered heaven that HE STARTED TO MEDIATE. And he's still doing it!
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.....unless they teach that the "flesha God" mediates to the "Spirit", in some way.(Flesha God mediates to Himself).
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No. God manifest as the son of God and an actual human being is what does that. Your limitation on God disallows you from thinking that's possible. You have limited God to the limitations of humanity. And until you stop limiting God to a human being you will never ever grasp this.
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10-11-2017, 08:59 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
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Mike, your explanation of this vérse is in direct opposition to what it is actually saying.
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10-11-2017, 09:00 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
You just said that God mediates unto himself.
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