Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Barb

Really? And why is that? Because I am a woman? Because I am not a preacher? Or because you believe a preacher is untouchable?

I suspect it is the latter, so let me get this straight...

A man can be a low down, dirty rotten scoundrel, deceiving the people God placed in his care, his family, and the rest of the fine folks in his fellowship...

He can condemn others to yon lower regions for cutting their hair while his hands are too dirty for color TV...

And the little people are not allowed to comment?

Oh please!

I have in my hands an IBC Perspectives magazine...in it is a full page ad for a conference that was held at Cal Tab in Indy, Sept. 6-7, 2012...just a few weeks prior to GC.

At the bottom of the page is a picture of one of the Friday speakers... TB...he is listed with Bros. Graham, Bernard, and Mooney for the Friday lineup.

And this is all while he is involved in Lord knows what...but we are not allowed to comment?

Is it any wonder our young people are having a problem with trusting preachers today? It is not the Benny Hinns of this world who are throwing them a curve ball...it is those whom they have known or known of for years who are causing doubt to arise.

We the people...God's people have hidden these things under a bushel and it shouldn't be.

I'm sorry if my straightforward posts on this matter have offended you. I will refrain from doing so, but strongly believe I am right.

Barb, the last time I checked we still live in a free country and yes, we still have freedom of speech. It is a Constitutional right that we still enjoy...at the moment.

Therefore, you do have the legal and moral right to comment.

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by Barb

Really? And why is that? Because I am a woman? Because I am not a preacher? Or because you believe a preacher is untouchable?

I suspect it is the latter, so let me get this straight...

A man can be a low down, dirty rotten scoundrel, deceiving the people God placed in his care, his family, and the rest of the fine folks in his fellowship...

He can condemn others to yon lower regions for cutting their hair while his hands are too dirty for color TV...

And the little people are not allowed to comment?

Oh please!

I have in my hands an IBC Perspectives magazine...in it is a full page ad for a conference that was held at Cal Tab in Indy, Sept. 6-7, 2012...just a few weeks prior to GC.

At the bottom of the page is a picture of one of the Friday speakers... TB...he is listed with Bros. Graham, Bernard, and Mooney for the Friday lineup.

And this is all while he is involved in Lord knows what...but we are not allowed to comment?

Is it any wonder our young people are having a problem with trusting preachers today? It is not the Benny Hinns of this world who are throwing them a curve ball...it is those whom they have known or known of for years who are causing doubt to arise.

We the people...God's people have hidden these things under a bushel and it shouldn't be.

I'm sorry if my straightforward posts on this matter have offended you. I will refrain from doing so, but strongly believe I am right.

Your points are very valid.

[canam]

Originally Posted by revdtzombik

Whom are speaking about if I may ask that was with Bro. Mooney for less then a month??

thanks

see post 1357 my commas were off my baad

[Hizzangel]

I have known Bro. Mooney for many years. Having said that, I doubt that he felt "stabbed big time" after hearing Bro. Black had resigned. Instead, I would tend to believe that he reached out to a fellow minister of the gospel, who was in need of prayer and a friend. I have heard of many others who have, and I respect them for doing what the church was called to do. It's easy to go on with life and pretend nothing happened....like the person didnt exist, that in one fail swoop every good thing in their ministry was wiped out because they fell. However- that's not the church we are suppose to be.

I've still not heard that the church board or whomever has acknowledged everything that has been stated on here that happened did in fact happen. However, I know that while failures are nothing to overlook or sweep under the rug, thAt there are also a lot of untruths out there... A lot. For some reason, we as humans find the truth far less believable that the lies. I'm not saying that something didnt in fact happen. I'm just saying, having been close to a similar situation...about 90 % of what you hear as facts, are simply not that at all. I'm just really careful to believe something 100% until I hear it from the person.
Has the church made a formal statement regarding the situation?

[canam]

Originally Posted by Hizzangel

I have known Bro. Mooney for many years. Having said that, I doubt that he felt "stabbed big time" after hearing Bro. Black had resigned. Instead, I would tend to believe that he reached out to a fellow minister of the gospel, who was in need of prayer and a friend. I have heard of many others who have, and I respect them for doing what the church was called to do. It's easy to go on with life and pretend nothing happened....like the person didnt exist, that in one fail swoop every good thing in their ministry was wiped out because they fell. However- that's not the church we are suppose to be.

I've still not heard that the church board or whomever has acknowledged everything that has been stated on here that happened did in fact happen. However, I know that while failures are nothing to overlook or sweep under the rug, thAt there are also a lot of untruths out there... A lot. For some reason, we as humans find the truth far less believable that the lies. I'm not saying that something didnt in fact happen. I'm just saying, having been close to a similar situation...about 90 % of what you hear as facts, are simply not that at all. I'm just really careful to believe something 100% until I hear it from the person.
Has the church made a formal statement regarding the situation?

thank you Hizz ostrich, Cindy? where are you !

[Hizzangel]

Originally Posted by canam

thank you Hizz ostrich, Cindy? where are you !

I'm sorry?

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by canam

thank you Hizz ostrich, Cindy? where are you !

Whut?

[houston]

"good grief"

[tv1a]

My scriptural view of the Memphid Mess is whatever happened is made worse by people irrelevant to the situation. A person directly affected by the events has no business trying to gain sympathy Nothing about gender or position but applying God's Word correctly. What scriptural evidence do you have to continue keep the flames of gossip going?

You won't find any post suggesting I believe preachers are untouchable. I stated preachers have to be accountable.

According to scripture, you don't have the right to comment. Your responsibility is to pray about the situation. Did Jesus and the disciple talk about Judas at the Last Supper? What was said about Judas AFTER he left? You won't find Jesus spouting off with hateful remarks.

Barb, I would love for you to show scriptures justifying your hateful rhetoric.

If for whatever reason, this situation has offended you, you are supposed to forgive the person. Forgive us our sins as we forgive others who offended us. When you forgive someone, you forfeit the right to be offended. If no offense, than there would not be name calling and self righteouis posturing.

I'm not a TB apologist. I've been in the pew a few times when something worse thappened. Twice in five years. I know what damage the little people (your words, better term is nosey people) does. I know from first hand experience the truth is twisted by the time it gets to the nosey people.

Two assignments for you Barb, show where I think preachers get a free ride and provide Biblical support for you taking the role of judge jury and executioner.

Originally Posted by Barb

Really? And why is that? Because I am a woman? Because I am not a preacher? Or because you believe a preacher is untouchable?

I suspect it is the latter, so let me get this straight...

A man can be a low down, dirty rotten scoundrel, deceiving the people God placed in his care, his family, and the rest of the fine folks in his fellowship...

He can condemn others to yon lower regions for cutting their hair while his hands are too dirty for color TV...

And the little people are not allowed to comment?

Oh please!

I have in my hands an IBC Perspectives magazine...in it is a full page ad for a conference that was held at Cal Tab in Indy, Sept. 6-7, 2012...just a few weeks prior to GC.

At the bottom of the page is a picture of one of the Friday speakers... TB...he is listed with Bros. Graham, Bernard, and Mooney for the Friday lineup.

And this is all while he is involved in Lord knows what...but we are not allowed to comment?

Is it any wonder our young people are having a problem with trusting preachers today? It is not the Benny Hinns of this world who are throwing them a curve ball...it is those whom they have known or known of for years who are causing doubt to arise.

We the people...God's people have hidden these things under a bushel and it shouldn't be.

I'm sorry if my straightforward posts on this matter have offended you. I will refrain from doing so, but strongly believe I am right.

[AreYouReady?]

There you go with your polarization of people again, tv1a. If anybody does twisting of scriptures and of things people post...IT IS YOU. You are comparing our specified legal constitutional right of the freedom of speech with abortion and homosexuality (which is not a specified constitutional right) is comparing apples with bananas.

Incorporating Christ's church into a business solely to become tax-exempt is also legal and you are ok with that. But there is no scriptural basis for that at all despite you reading between the lines and digging out some obscure meaning of acceptance of that after you mangle the scriptures to do that.

Tithing is not even a new testament apostolic commandment, although you seem to be quite fine with extorting money out of people's pockets.

If you want the tithe, then you should accept the firstfruits of the livestock and produce from the field as the scriptures outline. Oh but then you would have to keep the law.

I've seen people like you ALL the years of my life. The very same people (just like you) who try to shut others up, usually do so because they are doing something unsavory themselves and do not want the scrutiny of the people to shed light upon their own deeds.

If Barb does not have the right to comment about situations, then you do not have the right to tell her so either.


By the way, you stirred the pot on this subject once again. Why don't you do what the admins asked us to do and start another thread instead of keeping your garbage going on this one?