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Old 10-21-2007, 02:59 PM
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Exactly.

I also think that there are some so-called "Christian" doctrines that, after initial consideration, we should close our minds to. Nothing wrong with questioning, but some things just are.
But it's the OPEN minded individual that examines that doctrine and determines it is WRONG. You don't close your mind to it, you reject it. That's not how Open minded and Closed Minded are used.
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being open to anything and everything is not the same as being an open minded person. Open mindedness does not mean trying everything or anything
Sure it can Prax.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:01 PM
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Sure it can Prax.
This is how communication breaks down, when words no longer have meanings but can mean anything we want to attach to it at any given moment
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:05 PM
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How do you know Thomas's doubt was sin? The others got to see Jesus first, and they had the exact same reason to believe he had risen that Thomas did: they saw him! When Thomas saw Jesus, he believed, too. Thomas doubted what he heard the others tell him. Not what Jesus told him.

Good point.

The only problem is Jesus words in John 20:29:

Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:06 PM
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This is how communication breaks down, when words no longer have meanings but can mean anything we want to attach to it at any given moment
Yes, it bothers me that you can't see the danger of open-mindedness.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:10 PM
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Yes, it bothers me that you can't see the danger of open-mindedness.
Thats because you have a closed mind.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:13 PM
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being open to anything and everything is not the same as being an open minded person. Open mindedness does not mean trying everything or anything
What about ecclesiastical openness? Because of our stance on salvation we are considered closeminded to other 'christians' since we don't have open arms welcoming all who name the name of Christ as brothers and sisters.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:15 PM
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Thats because you have a closed mind.
You look familiar.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:16 PM
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Thats because you have a closed mind.
Bingo

These discussions often turn into a conversational semantical house of mirrors, with a good bit of fun house fog to boot.

It always takes someone with the more "open" mind to see how "closed" the more close minded is.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:16 PM
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I heard many moons ago a Bro Couch preach a message titled "Negotiables, and Non-Negotiables".

There are biblical area's that God allows us room to be "open-minded" in. But there are area's that there is no place for negotiating. ANYTHING foundational in Gods word is not open for negotiation. Paul lists those things in his letter to the Hebrew saints.

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Hbr 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Hbr 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Hbr 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.
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