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View Poll Results: Will you report an Illegal Alien?
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10-13-2007, 05:21 PM
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Coopie, you didn't answer my question. Would you report a kid stealing a grape from a grocery store produce aisle?
Circumstances matter, too. A ne'er do well who was loitering and interested in being a gang member might get my reporting dander up...but a man working hard every day and providing for his family? Not a chance.
I have one word for this thread: Rahab.
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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10-13-2007, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by J-Roc
I have no problems with anyone dying to enter this GREAT country to work and make a living and provide well for his family provided he is paying his fair share of taxes. If I were not born in the US, and lived in some of the conditions that I see in third world countries....I PROMISE you I'd be the first one making my way to this country to work hard for my family and pay taxes and do what I can to become a citizen. Fine me if necessary....I'll pay up.
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I do have a problem with it. They steal American jobs by working for a pittance. Don't tell me it doesn't happen.
Here's an idea.
How about they fix their own economic system instead of demanding we give them everything as they riot on our streets?
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10-13-2007, 05:21 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by CC1
I would report them in a flash but that does no good anymore. The government from city, state, to Federal is not interested in enforicing immigration law.
I recently sat in traffic court for about an hour and a half and witnessed at least a half dozen illegal Mexicans tell the judge they did not have drivers licenses and when he would ask why they would say (through an interpretere) simply that they "couldn't get one".
The judge would just nod then fine them. I think a cop should be there in the courtroom to pull any illegals out and turn them over to immigration.
I am all for legal immigration but the flood of illegals is destroying our country and wrong.
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The INS is too busy to be worried about just a few illegals. If you call them, they are only interested if you have at least a busload.
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10-13-2007, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rico
He's not out of line. It's against the law to help an illegal alien. What he is saying is true.
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Absolutely, and to continue on with a train of thought here, let me say this.
A U.S. citizen is my brother because we swear allegiance to this nation. I don't go around policing his every move because of that brotherhood.
I do not know the motives of an illegal immigrant. If he/she is here illegally, willingly flaunting our laws, why should I give my trust?
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10-13-2007, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Rico
He's not out of line. It's against the law to help an illegal alien. What he is saying is true.
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"Hispanics...what to do with them thread" is the reason Coop started this thread. For the record I believe that everyone should go through the legal process, but I think what is in question is why this thread was started. Is it pointed towards Hispanics in general, or illegal residents? Darcie was aggitated for that reason bro.
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10-13-2007, 05:26 PM
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His word burns in my heart like a fire...Fire Fall Down
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
No, I do not agree with that statement at all. I see them lined up at 7-11 all the time, waiting to send money home to their families. It is too easy for them to abuse our system. Besides, why would they want citizenship when you and others advocate they have equal rights with all Americans without it?
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PP, they have the desire...and would if they could....the system isn't set up that way, that's all. There are sound ways to fix this situation and part of it includes fining them.
What is wrong and dishonorable about them sending money to their family? Would you like them to send it to you instead....many of them pay taxes with a tax payer ID number....so what's it to you what they do with their money. If you really are upset, why dont you crack down on the businesses that hire them....why dont you scream from the top of your lungs regarding these businesses....why aren't you demonstrating in front of their offices?
Oh right, some need their lawn cut, their gardens maintained, their deck built, their food prepared, their laundry done, their house cleaned....oh yeah, I forgot.
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10-13-2007, 05:26 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by Darcie
I feel sorry for your kids.
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Why? If one of my children were to steal my car I would report them to the police immediately.
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10-13-2007, 05:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rico
He's not out of line. It's against the law to help an illegal alien. What he is saying is true.
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Let's have a hypothetical then, just for fun. If a man, woman and child knocked on our door and said they had no food, we would give them some, regardless of their citizenship. Against the law or not.
What of people who hid Jews? Or helped them when they were being persecuted by the government? What of missionaries who sneak into other countries to preach the Gospel? And no, I'm not comparing the immigrant plight to that of Jews...I'm saying that there is something to be said for doing the right thing, regardless of what law enforcement would prefer.
We are to obey the laws of the land, but when it comes to a question of legal vs. moral, choose moral. There is something in there about...obeying God rather than man.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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10-13-2007, 05:28 PM
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His word burns in my heart like a fire...Fire Fall Down
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Coopie, you didn't answer my question. Would you report a kid stealing a grape from a grocery store produce aisle?
Circumstances matter, too. A ne'er do well who was loitering and interested in being a gang member might get my reporting dander up...but a man working hard every day and providing for his family? Not a chance.
I have one word for this thread: Rahab.
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Agreed!
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10-13-2007, 05:29 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by J-Roc
In this post, why haven't you targeted a specific race...why just general "crack dealer"....but with illegal aliens you mention race? Do you think someone would get upset if you said "I would report a _______ crack dealer" ...you can fill in the blank with any number of races.
The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance deride it, but in the end there it is....
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Maybe because the overwhelming majority of illegals are Mexicans, J-Roc. Don't play dumb.
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