Our Baptism Mode!!

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Now water does remit, or as you define it as "washes", sin ... interesting .... the writer in Hebrews says its blood.

Only the finished work of Calvary remits sins. IN His blood we have redemption-forgiveness-remission however we experience this by obeying the gospel preached by the Apostles and JESUS said repentance and remission of sins would be preached in His name beginning at Jerusalem. The BLOOD paid the price an in that blood is the trail from the altar to the Holiest of All.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

The shadows throughout the book point to Jesus Christ and HIS WORK... not your interpretation of Acts 2:38.

I believe most of the shadows of water in the OT refer to the Spirit of Christ ... the river of living water ... and also the Word ... Jesus is the Word that became flesh.

And the OIL symbolizes WHAT??????????????????????????

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

And the OIL symbolizes WHAT??????????????????????????

Once again ... it points to the Spirit of Christ .... Oil has alway represented the Spirit Elder you know that ... so has water ...

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Only the finished work of Calvary remits sins. IN His blood we have redemption-forgiveness-remission however we experience this by obeying the gospel preached by the Apostles and JESUS said repentance and remission of sins would be preached in His name beginning at Jerusalem. The BLOOD paid the price an in that blood is the trail from the altar to the Holiest of All.

So the blood does the heavy cleansing ... and the water is like a rinse???

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Note to all readers: Elder Epley wants you to read Exodus thru Deut. and have it fit Acts 2:38 .... an exercise in suggestion.

I am amazed to hear this notion among Pentecost that all scripture points to Acts 2:38

Gen. 1:2-3 gives a picture of Acts 2:38 the world(us) was without form and chaotic but the Spirit moved or brooded ON THE FACE OF THE WATER and GOD Said. SPIRIT-WATER-WORD-LIGHT. Water is in the Plan. God inspired it to be written that way. Not some Pentecostal preacher. BLOOD-WATER-OIL-FIRE read it and weep.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Gen. 1:2-3 gives a picture of Acts 2:38 the world(us) was without form and chaotic but the Spirit moved or brooded ON THE FACE OF THE WATER and GOLD Said. SPIRIT-WATER-WORD-LIGHT. Water is in the Plan. God inspired it to be written that way. Not some Pentecostal preacher. BLOOD-WATER-OIL-FIRE read it and weep.

Hearing you adulterate scripture indeed is a reason for weeping ...

Scripture points to Jesus Christ ... its a sad day indeed when all scripture no longer points th Him, God's Plan of Salvation.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Once again ... it points to the Spirit of Christ .... Oil has alway represented the Spirit Elder you know that ... so has water ...

THEN maybe the BLOOD is symbolic of the Spirit and the literal blood of Christ accomplished NOTHING.

Note the difference:

Blood-water-spirit AGREE in ONE!!!!!!
Father-Word-Holy Ghost ARE ONE!!!!

Dan has the blood-water-spirit ARE one NOT AGREEING in ONE.

Simple lesson blood is NOT water-water is not blood-water is not spirit-spirit is not water-blood is not spirit-spirit is not blood they AGREE in ONE they ARE NOT ONE!

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Hearing you adulterate scripture indeed is a reason for weeping ...

Scripture points to Jesus Christ ... its a sad day indeed when all scripture no longer points th Him, God's Plan of Salvation.

Jesus Christ (Who is the God who inspired the OT writings) included BLOOD-WATER-OIL-FIRE s don't weep He is NOT offended. He is our Saviour and His death by His blood purchased our salvational and we receive it in obedience of the gospel which is Acts 2:38.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

THEN maybe the BLOOD is symbolic of the Spirit and the literal blood of Christ accomplished NOTHING.

Note the difference:

Blood-water-spirit AGREE in ONE!!!!!!
Father-Word-Holy Ghost ARE ONE!!!!

Dan has the blood-water-spirit ARE one NOT AGREEING in ONE.

Simple lesson blood is NOT water-water is not blood-water is not spirit-spirit is not water-blood is not spirit-spirit is not blood they AGREE in ONE they ARE NOT ONE!

The blood came from whom ...

You are not suggesting the blood [His], my water baptism [ me] and the Word [His] are the three witnesses that become One ... are you ...

You have again taken one verse to fit your doctrine .. yet ignore 1 John in context ...

There is no way ... that the water he refers to her is my water baptism or Christ's baptism ...

1 John 5:6

This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

THEN maybe the BLOOD is symbolic of the Spirit and the literal blood of Christ accomplished NOTHING.

Note the difference:

Blood-water-spirit AGREE in ONE!!!!!!
Father-Word-Holy Ghost ARE ONE!!!!

Dan has the blood-water-spirit ARE one NOT AGREEING in ONE.

Simple lesson blood is NOT water-water is not blood-water is not spirit-spirit is not water-blood is not spirit-spirit is not blood they AGREE in ONE they ARE NOT ONE!

The blood came from whom ???... no ordinary blood indeed

You are not suggesting the blood [His], my water baptism [ me] and the Word [His] are the three witnesses that become One ... are you ...

You have again taken one verse to fit your doctrine .. yet ignore 1 John in context ...

There is no way ... that the water he refers to here is my water baptism or Christ's baptism ...

1 John 5:6

This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.