Merry Christmas to one and all !!

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Some that I’m warning you about, have no problem to stand with a gun in there hand to take another persons life, in the name of self defense.

What does that have to do with the topic of discussion? Talk about your non-sequiturs. Are you saying that the guy in the Texas church, who shot a gunman in the head, was wrong to do so in defense of himself and others?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Tell that to the Afghan rebels.

Oh they already know. They have plenty of families without fathers, husbands, and sons. But this is all nonsense. There are no state militias where they will have to rise up a quell the government. Afghan rebels? Where are the mountain caves you will be fighting from? Where exactly in the United States or where you live in state you live in will you fight your guerilla war? Any jungles? Mountain ranges? Ask some Afghans, they will tell you that a helicopter can evade what ever they throw at it. Plus return with utter accuracy a smart missile right dead center of their position. Bro, we aren't in locations because we haven't won the war, or put down the rebellion. We stay because we are an empire. that's what empires do. But what you are proposing isn't going to happen anytime too soon, may never happen. Because this so called "militia" is probably of the same clothe as yourself. They probably make grandiose proclamations of "death to the tyrants!" as you seem o be doing here. But, in real time, the government doesn't need your neighbor or concerned loved one to turn you and your buds in. They just follow you and they on the internet. The minute you pop up a red flag and become a person of interest. They follow your electronic paper trail. Every discussion of uprising and rebellion. They will even produce material you have long forgotten. If you are a special threat to them, they will even make things up. No, my suggestion is prayer, and an everyday celebration of the Lord Jesus Christ. Not just when you get a Federal holiday.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Is that what you call balance? That is your problem, that you compensate for the slide, you overcompensate. Therefore you end up in the ditch. You believe that if anyone who even walks into a house where there is a Xmas tree or Nativity set is someway a hypocrite. But be that as it may, you'll get older, and hopefully wiser.

Your speaking of yourself.

Go back and read your posts and mine, then read this. You tell me who’s in the ditch? I told you I don’t celebrate Christmas, I made it clear that I dont have trees, or lights, etc... and what was I accused of? Starting my own version of the holiday. I said to enjoy it with friends and family, tell me where I said to put up a mistletoe, to decorate your house in Santa clause? You cant you want to know why, because I didnt say that! I dont believe in that! Yet, in your blindness your out to prove someone wrong, and you missed that all I have been saying is instead of using Christmas as the world does, use it to glorify God, hence why I said I teach the church to worship, fellowship, you want to give a gift, go ahead. On the other hand, you have those, that if you do anything on December 25, you’re counted as pagan. That why i said what I said about balance! WE NEED IT! Again I’m against Christmas trees, I’m against decorating them, I’m against hanging lights on your home, I’m against Yule tide logs, I’m against wreaths. IM not against taking advantage of your day off and spending it with family and friends. Because I believe that DOESNT MAKE ME OR ANYONE A PAGAN!!! Because like Bro. Benincasa said, we should do that all year! AND WE CAN DO THAT IN ALL OF DECEMBER.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Jito463

What does that have to do with the topic of discussion? Talk about your non-sequiturs. Are you saying that the guy in the Texas church, who shot a gunman in the head, was wrong to do so in defense of himself and others?

How many times have people got shot in your church?

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

How many times have people got shot in your church?

Never, thank God. Why?

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Jito463

What does that have to do with the topic of discussion? Talk about your non-sequiturs. Are you saying that the guy in the Texas church, who shot a gunman in the head, was wrong to do so in defense of himself and others?

You tell me.

Did he kill him?

If both guns went off as the same time and both were killed, who right and who’s wrong?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Your speaking of yourself.

Go back and read your posts and mine, then read this. You tell me who’s in the ditch? I told you I don’t celebrate Christmas, I made it clear that I dont have trees, or lights, etc... and what was I accused of? Starting my own version of the holiday.

Ok, so I was right. You stay home on a day off which happens to be on Xmas day and you listen to Xmas albums?

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

I said to enjoy it with friends and family, tell me where I said to put up a mistletoe, to decorate your house in Santa clause?

You posted Dino, not me.

Calm down dude, go re read all our discussion.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

You cant you want to know why, because I didnt say that! I dont believe in that! Yet, in your blindness your out to prove someone wrong, and you missed that all I have been saying is

instead of using Christmas as the world does

, use it to glorify God, hence why I said I teach the church to worship, fellowship, you want to give a gift, go ahead.

Doesn't celebrate Xmas, but calls it Xmas??

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

On the other hand, you have those, that if you do anything on December 25, you’re counted as pagan.

No, I call it Xmas, and guess what? So do YOU!

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

That why i said what I said about balance! WE NEED IT!

Obviously you need some woodshed prayer time.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Again I’m against Christmas trees, I’m against decorating them, I’m against hanging lights on your home, I’m against Yule tide logs, I’m against wreaths. IM not against taking advantage of your day off and spending it with family and friends. Because I believe that DOESNT MAKE ME OR ANYONE A PAGAN!!! Because like Bro. Benincasa said, we should do that all year! AND WE CAN DO THAT IN ALL OF DECEMBER.

Bro, you need to listen to the Mormons around you, and lay off coffee.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Never, thank God. Why?

How long have you been in the church? Not just the church you are in now but with Christ?

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

This is not what you are advocating. You are advocating Xmas, bottom line. You are celebrating not a Biblical event, but one that had been handed down to you from the Western and Eastern churches. Like I said before, if they never made anything out of it, you would have nothing to do on December 24th to 25th. If you were raised by Eastern Orthodox tradition you would be complaining about January 6-7th.


You don't get to decide what I was or was not advocating. Are we clear on that point or do you need a little more clarification?

You know, Titus 1:15 says a bit about psychological projection. My statement was founded on your post were self refuting. You were actually arguing against your own premise. But back to you thinking people are just out to get to you. They are not, but maybe you should keep that in mind during discussions.

There was no self-refuting. I was simply pointing out the inertness of the whole matter. But again, you know that. Stop trying to win a debate and take a brother at his word when he clarifies his remarks.


How would you like to be treated? Do you believe in this discussion you have treated me like you would like be treated? We are men having a discussion. You believe you are right, and I believe I am right. I see nothing here which constitutes that you have been mistreated or misrepresented by anyone.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

How long have you been in the church? Not just the church you are in now but with Christ?

Why do you always ask questions, yet never answer them?