Sinless Perfection

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Half baked Gnosticism.

That's funny, because the Gnostics believed that the body was the problem.

That you buddy.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I remember Pastor Shearer telling us, "The carnal mind will always seek to please the carnal desires of the flesh, and so it can't please God. It thinks God's ways are foolish. Pinch the skin on the top of your hand. That's it, pinch it and hold it. Look at it. That's flesh. Now repeat after me the words of Paul, "For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing:'. Good, now that we have that settled, let's put on the mind of Christ and learn to deny the flesh. Every body ready? We're starting a seven day fast..."

Man, I miss him sometimes.

Well, Mr, that is what comes from being told something about the Bible, and being taught something from the Bible.

Also, you don't miss him, because if you did you would of found an elder who believed just like him. So, spare me memory lane.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by houston

Easy.

Oneness. Repentance. Baptism in Jesus’ name FOR the forgiveness of sins. Initial evidence doctrine. Becoming sinless. Souls sleep then resurrection of the dead. Doesn’t teach standards as holiness.


MTD, did I leave anything out?

Post trib. But very good.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

That's funny, because the Gnostics believed that the body was the problem.

That you buddy.

They also believed much like the Hindus, that the physical body, even physical matter, was merely an illusion. They saw this as being a deception, a lie, inherently evil.

There's nothing wrong with the body in and of itself. And, it is very real. It is sin that has warped the being of man, including the body. We baptize it, discipline it, properly maintain it, and keep it from union with prostitutes. And one day, the sinful nature of the flesh produced by the fall will be eliminated in its glorification.

The Gnostics would deny all of that.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Well, Mr, that is what comes from being told something about the Bible, and being taught something from the Bible.

Also, you don't miss him, because if you did you would of found an elder who believed just like him. So, spare me memory lane.

Oh, I do love him. I don't agree on every point. And I looked. They don't make them like him any more.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Well, Mr, that is what comes from being told something about the Bible, and being taught something from the Bible.

Also, you don't miss him, because if you did you would of found an elder who believed just like him. So, spare me memory lane.

Hey, if you want to believe that the Bible is all about spiritual mind science, be my guest.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I remember Pastor Shearer telling us, "The carnal mind will always seek to please the carnal desires of the flesh, and so it can't please God. It thinks God's ways are foolish. Pinch the skin on the top of your hand. That's it, pinch it and hold it. Look at it. That's flesh. Now repeat after me the words of Paul, 'For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing:'. Good, now that we have that settled, let's put on the mind of Christ and learn to deny the flesh. Every body ready? We're starting a seven day fast..."

Man, I miss him sometimes.

If I recall Bro Sharer was as close to teaching sinless perfection as anyone I can think of in the UPC.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

They also believed much like the Hindus, that the physical body, even physical matter, was merely an illusion. They saw this as being a deception, a lie, inherently evil.

There's nothing wrong with the body in and of itself. And, it is very real. It is sin that has warped the being of man, including the body. We baptize it, discipline it, properly maintain it, and keep it from union with prostitutes. And one day, the sinful nature of the flesh produced by the fall will be eliminated in its glorification.

The Gnostics would deny all of that.

Chris, do you believe water baptism is taking a bath?

Your knowledge of Hinduism is Googelation. Because like the Gnostics the body was to be broken through fastings, hard asceticism. The body was to be taken out of the way therefore they could be enlightened. Look at the beginnings of Siddhartha Gautama Buddha. The Gnostics believed the body to be the evil, which had to be taken out of the way. That God couldn't inhabit the human body, but needed a spiritual body not made of Adam, who was the Adam Kadmon.

[Michael The Disciple]

We are supposed to have this mindset.

11: Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12: Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13: Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14: For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. Rom. 6:11-14

We are dead to sin. We do all that we do by faith. This can be just as real as salvation itself. Just believe Yah's word. Act as if it is true. Sin is abnormal for the disciple of Christ.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

If I recall Bro Sharer was as close to teaching sinless perfection as anyone I can think of in the UPC.

Well Aquila must of been absent those days.