Do we have to pay tithes?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

David and Goliath was written in the 6th century B.C. look at 1 Samuel 17:4-5 "And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span. [5] And he had an helmet of brass upon his head, and he was armed with a coat of mail; and the weight of the

coat was five thousand shekels of brass."

So I think this shows it couldn't be money, but it was a weight system for precious metals, and things of that nature. A barter system a going rate in weight.

Good point.

But again, money isn't what we think it is. That's all I'm saying.

Now everyone go pay your tithes.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Seriously, the Apostle Paul gave instruction to support the ministry. Hence they that preach the Gospel were to have it as their vocation. They weren't to threaten you with God's wrath. Because you already know where you stand in that equation. I have cut down trees, painted houses, and rebuilt engines, and got machines running in the secular world. I'm a Christian, so, I got beat out of the money. Jesus knows all about it. Paul and Jesus admonishes us that we were never to ask for it. What is set before us we eat. We do and ask nothing in return. 10%? Paul said you were to support the ministry? Yet, some agree while balking over a 10%? I must be a total moron, because I'm just not getting it.

[Evang.Benincasa]

1:21:40 to 1:21:47 is the bullet to the brain.

Bros, I'll tell you this, there will be those who gave with wrong intentions who will bust hell wide open. But, there are so many variables, as in Shakespeare's play Julius Caesar Act 3, Scene 2, Page 5, Mark Antony's speech. may I quote the first plebeian? "Methinks there is much reason in his sayings." So, if we eat the fish and spit out the bones we may come to the truth of what Elder Riggen speaks.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Ouch, I just lost my place after 1:21:47, I think the oxygen masks just fell from the ceiling.

[Evang.Benincasa]

1:21:47 to 1:23:20

[Evang.Benincasa]

1:23:27 God pulls up your tithing record?

Revelation 20:12 is talking about general accounting ledgers?

[1ofthechosen]

Malachi 3:8-9 is saying it's robbing God or it wouldn't say "ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. And 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." So if it's robbery it always was, and always will be robbery. And the scripture doesn't say "thieves shall not inherit the kingdom of God." That's what he's saying and scripture says the samething in that context.

[Evang.Benincasa]

P.S. At 1:23:27 Elder Riggen didn't say Revelation 20:12 is talking about general accounting ledgers.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Malachi 3:8-9 is saying it's robbing God or it wouldn't say "ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. And 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." So if it's robbery it always was, and always will be robbery. And the scripture doesn't say "thieves shall not inherit the kingdom of God." That's what he's saying and scripture says the samething in that context.

Bro, tell me what is this whole nation?

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Bro, tell me what is this whole nation?

And was God saying that "Ye AND this whole nation have robbed me" or "Ye have robbed Me in addition to this whole nation"?