Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

[Sean]

God is a Spirit, right?


14 And the Word(Spirit) was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Was the Spirit made flesh?


No, His spoken word was.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

"God inside Christ"(Holy Ghost) was prior to the foundation of the world.(Christ always existed, mind/will of God)

The Holy Ghost was/is comprised of the human spirit of Christ indwelled by the Holy Spirit.

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

The human Jesus was in existence before the world began in the mind/will of God, which is reality to God.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;


Present tense.

See how Paul divides the 2 present beings yet?

[Sean]

Some folks make the excuse that these verses etc., were written by trins, but trins greatly struggle with them also.

[Sean]

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=123


I think the Apostles believed and taught 2 beings...one independent Divine being, inside one independent human being.

I think we have drifted away from this simple fact.

[Sean]

The very idea of an independent human being with a God, is totally against the H/U doctrine of the Catholic church etc.

But it is clearly seen in scripture.

All H/U teaches the Son was a "flesh puppet"(speaking mysterious double meanings) of God, and not an individual.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Sean

God is a Spirit, right?


14 And the Word(Spirit) was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Was the Spirit made flesh?


No, His spoken word was.

you can separate Spirit from Word?

Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Ephesians 6:16-17
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

[Sean]

Why dare enter into this idea, and abandon H/U?

To reconcile this....


12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.


I ignored this verse for decades, but finally surrendered to it.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Amanah

you can separate Spirit from Word?

Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Ephesians 6:16-17
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

My question was, was the Spirit(God) made flesh?

Please tell me if it is so.

[Sean]

We have 2 choices to make here.

#1....The Spirit was made flesh.

#2....The spoken Word of God that made all things was also made flesh.


I think #2 is correct.