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04-20-2015, 09:52 AM
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Re: Is suicide a sin?
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Originally Posted by Jito463
All I have to say on the matter, is that regardless of the source or the cause of any mental instability, I believe wholeheartedly that Jesus can heal it. By His stripes we are healed. It makes no distinction between physical and mental pain/illness, we are healed.
As to the original topic, I do believe suicide is a sin, but I am not the judge. By that point, there is only one left who can judge, so I leave it to Him. I prefer to deal with stopping people before they take their own lives.
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Amen!
Why do we always think we have to have an answer to every question?
Are trinitarians lost for hell? What will God do with those who have not fulfilled all Acts 2:38?
I DO NOT KNOW! and I do not care who a person is, they don't either!
What's wrong with saying God is the judge? Who knows about suicide? It's a grey area! Just stop [people from doing it if you can. And fear God enough that you may be in for great trouble if you commit suicide.
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04-29-2015, 10:08 PM
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Re: Is suicide a sin?
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Amen!
Why do we always think we have to have an answer to every question?
(1) Are trinitarians lost for hell? What will God do with those who have not fulfilled all Acts 2:38?
I DO NOT KNOW! and I do not care who a person is, they don't either!
What's wrong with saying God is the judge? Who knows about suicide? It's a grey area! Just stop [people from doing it if you can. And fear God enough that you may be in for great trouble if you commit suicide.
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"But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer
to every man that asks you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear...".
There are some that teach Judas Iscariot was saved. Don't see scripture teaching that.
(1) Who is "lost for hell"? Would it not be those who want to be saved in their
own righteousness? Who embrace doctrines of man in lieu of God's doctrine?
Should the "Watchman"
muzzle his own mouth and sleep?
May the Lord's peace be with you.
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05-01-2015, 07:25 AM
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Re: Is suicide a sin?
Only God knows the true thoughts and intents of the heart.
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05-01-2015, 09:52 AM
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Re: Is suicide a sin?
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Only God knows the true thoughts and intents of the heart.
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God knows who will be saved, and will judge accordingly?
Just asking.
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05-06-2015, 11:07 AM
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Re: Is suicide a sin?
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"But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer
to every man that asks you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear...".
There are some that teach Judas Iscariot was saved. Don't see scripture teaching that.
(1) Who is "lost for hell"? Would it not be those who want to be saved in their
own righteousness? Who embrace doctrines of man in lieu of God's doctrine?
Should the "Watchman"
muzzle his own mouth and sleep?
May the Lord's peace be with you.
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We don't' have a direct statement from Peter on the day of Pentecost saying if you do not fulfill the whole mandate you will be said. Priscilla and Aquila preached to Apollos the way more perfectly, and they never mentioned hell or being lost.
So, there's some things we leave to God. We do not HAVE TO know every answer.
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05-06-2015, 02:49 PM
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Re: Is suicide a sin?
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We don't' have a direct statement from Peter on the day of Pentecost saying if you do not fulfill the whole mandate you will be said. Priscilla and Aquila preached to Apollos the way more perfectly, and they never mentioned hell or being lost.
So, there's some things we leave to God. We do not HAVE TO know every answer.
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I believe you mean saved, right...and "mandate" mean gospel?
Beloved, you're stretching the truth a little, there. Peter did not need to preach half the gospel,
because he preached the WHOLE gospel that saves.
Apollos was "...an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures...instructed in the way of the Lord;
and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing
only the baptism of John."
Aquila, with his wife, was a disciple of Paul. They taught Apollos the two things he needed to
learn: baptism in the NAME of Jesus Christ, and being filled with the Holy Spirit.
"Search ye the scriptures...": they still testify of Him (the Gospel).
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05-11-2015, 10:00 PM
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Re: Is suicide a sin?
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I believe you mean saved, right...and "mandate" mean gospel?
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No, I meant LOST. Something about my mobile and spellcheck. Frustrating.
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Beloved, you're stretching the truth a little, there. Peter did not need to preach half the gospel,
because he preached the WHOLE gospel that saves.
Apollos was "...an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures...instructed in the way of the Lord;
and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing
only the baptism of John."
Aquila, with his wife, was a disciple of Paul. They taught Apollos the two things he needed to
learn: baptism in the NAME of Jesus Christ, and being filled with the Holy Spirit.
"Search ye the scriptures...": they still testify of Him (the Gospel).
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You missed my point. Nothing was said about "...OR ELSE YOU'RE LOST."
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05-12-2015, 07:02 AM
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Re: Is suicide a sin?
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No, I meant LOST. Something about my mobile and spellcheck. Frustrating.
You missed my point. Nothing was said about "...OR ELSE YOU'RE LOST."
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Sounds like when someone says the same about Mark 16:16. Yes it says he who believes and is baptized shall be saved......but not he that is not baptized shall be damned.
You cant quote Mark 16 around Evangelicals without hearing that.
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05-12-2015, 09:28 AM
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Re: Is suicide a sin?
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Sounds like when someone says the same about Mark 16:16. Yes it says he who believes and is baptized shall be saved......but not he that is not baptized shall be damned.
You cant quote Mark 16 around Evangelicals without hearing that.
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Folks like to quote 1 verse, (content) at the expense of context. Thye can't help themselves.
"If you abide in me, and my words abide in you...".
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05-13-2015, 08:49 AM
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Re: Is suicide a sin?
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Originally Posted by thephnxman
God knows who will be saved, and will judge accordingly?
Just asking.
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Yes. However, my concern here is with suicide. God knows the thoughts and intentions of the heart. God knows who is troubled, oppressed, etc. and who isn't.
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