The Supreme Court Quietly Gave In To Gay Marriage:

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Marriage as always regarded as a natural right or common right. It's not Constitutional, you're correct.

Constitutionally the Federal Courts are not even allowed to consider this issue.

What Are the Enumerated Powers of the Federal Courts?

1. “Judicial Power” refers to a court’s power to hear and decide cases. Art. III, Sec. 2, cl. 1 enumerates the cases which federal courts are permitted to hear. They may hear only cases:

a) Arising under the Constitution, or the Laws of the United States, or Treaties made under the Authority of the United States [“federal question” jurisdiction];

b) Affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers & Consuls; cases of admiralty & maritime Jurisdiction; or cases in which the U.S. is a Party [“status of parties” jurisdiction];

c) Between several States; between a State & Citizens of another State; between Citizens of different States; between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States;2 or between a State (or its Citizens) & foreign States, Citizens or Subjects 3 [“diversity” jurisdiction].

These are the ONLY cases federal courts have permission to hear! Alexander Hamilton says in Federalist No. 83 (8th para):

…the judicial authority of the federal judicatures is declared by the Constitution to comprehend certain cases particularly specified. The expression of those cases marks the precise limits beyond which the federal courts cannot extend their jurisdiction, because the objects of their cognizance being enumerated, the specification would be nugatory if it did not exclude all ideas of more extensive authority.

[good samaritan]

My point is Christians are becoming WIMPY CRYBABIES that have become incapable of functioning in a free society unless EVERYONE thinks like them!!! LOL

"17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you"

Maybe we shouldn't fit in with society. I wonder if the mark of the beast isn't already here.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

"17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you"

Maybe we shouldn't fit in with society. I wonder if the mark of the beast isn't already here.

I don't consider it wimpy to protest when an imperial federal court has trodden under foot our constitution and the sovereignty of the States.

[Aquila]

Don't the states honor marriages established in other states?

[good samaritan]

By these posts I understand the logic in homosexual marriages, but I still could never defend it or support its agenda of legalization. I can't change this sinful world I live in, but I can do my best to uphold what is right. I would never want to advocate something that displeases Jesus even if it is politically correct or appears to be more uniform in american definitions of liberty.

Jesus is a gentleman and he does give people the freedom of choice, but he doesn't acknowledge their unions. It has been brought up about re-marriages and we may realize that there are many unholy heterosexual marriages that he will not acknowledge. Although sin is sin, to me personally there are some sins that seem more vile than others.
Child molestation is far more gross than theft. Even in our legal system certain crimes have tougher consequences.

It is my humanity that causes me to think this way. I don't want what I see as one of vilest of sins to have that much influence in the world I live. Those who want to support it's legalization will probably regret the consequences. Sodom was destroyed for their sinful state and one thing that was specifically mentioned is their homosexuality. I may be considered a hater, but I don't hate any homosexual. I only hope they will turn to Jesus with all their heart and allow him to change them.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

By these posts I understand the logic in homosexual marriages, but I still could never defend it or support its agenda of legalization. I can't change this sinful world I live in, but I can do my best to uphold what is right. I would never want to advocate something that displeases Jesus even if it is politically correct or appears to be more uniform in american definitions of liberty. . . .

Does it displease Jesus when people don't attend church ("not forsaking the assembling . . .")? Or when someone doesn't believe in Him? Or when I covet my neighbor's Harely?

[good samaritan]

I believe anyone who would think a little bit about the characters of our founding fathers would admit they probably wouldn't have dreamed that one day the constitution that they created would be used to permit two men to get married. At that time in history the states would have never joined the union to support such things. Back then our government would never try push some thing through that would cause such disunity among the nation. Its is not just christians that oppose homosexuality in my home state it would probably be 90-95%of the stat population. How is it not a violation of our liberties to take our tax dollars and invest it things that are so morally wrong to us.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Does it displease Jesus when people don't attend church ("not forsaking the assembling . . .")? Or when someone doesn't believe in Him? Or when I covet my neighbor's Harely?

it does.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

it does.

Then you would support enacting laws for the above. Of course, yes?

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Then you would support enacting laws for the above. Of course, yes?

No, There is not any laws to enact against homosexuals either. They have the right to be openly gay. I am not trying to stop them. I just don't want the government to force me to participate or support their marriages even indirectly.

I ask you a question? why really are they wanting to cram all of this down people's throat any way. What benefits are so great about being legally married that they have to fight for this right. Marriage is a religious union between two people and even those who are not in church are really partaking in something that is rooted in religion.

I'm sure there is a way homosexual can legally bind themselves if that is what they want without calling one another husband and wife or what do they call one another. who is the bride? I'm confused. Call each partners, but not married couples.