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12-27-2013, 06:03 PM
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Re: Platform Standards
I think it would be a shame if I was denied access to the ministry of a holy, bearded man of God with power and anointing from on high just because of the number of whiskers on his face.
At my church, there is no facial hair standard. Our Director of Music (who plays bass during worship) has a nice goatee, our lead guitarist has a healthy full fledged beard and mustache. The rhythm guitarist also sports a nice goatee. My brother is the assistant pastor and last time I saw him, he was pretty shaggy. I'm on vacation and I haven't shaved in about 10 days, but I will have to before Monday night when I go back to work, since it's required for my job.
My pastor's brother has the best beard in the church, and another elder has been wearing a beard for I can only guess how long. Some previous members and elders who have moved on also wore beards. It's just a not a big deal.
Some men at our church just aren't blessed with the genes for good facial hair (me included), so some do not. Many would if they could. My dad has a nice thick gray goatee and no one says a thing at the apostolic church he attends (and if they did, he'd probably tell them to well, you can guess), and my step-dad has been wearing a beard, goatee, or mustache since before I was born, and he's in ministry (Sunday School, usher, and not sure what else) at the apostolic church he and my mom attends.
I say all this to show some balance. Not every church or preacher is so uptight about having every whisker shaved and accounted for by some standards police.
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12-27-2013, 06:04 PM
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Re: Platform Standards
Here is a website I think some will appreciate:
http://beardedgospelmen.net/
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12-27-2013, 06:24 PM
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Re: Platform Standards
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
I think it would be a shame if I was denied access to the ministry of a holy, bearded man of God with power and anointing from on high just because of the number of whiskers on his face.
At my church, there is no facial hair standard. Our Director of Music (who plays bass during worship) has a nice goatee, our lead guitarist has a healthy full fledged beard and mustache. The rhythm guitarist also sports a nice goatee. My brother is the assistant pastor and last time I saw him, he was pretty shaggy. I'm on vacation and I haven't shaved in about 10 days, but I will have to before Monday night when I go back to work, since it's required for my job.
My pastor's brother has the best beard in the church, and another elder has been wearing a beard for I can only guess how long. Some previous members and elders who have moved on also wore beards. It's just a not a big deal.
Some men at our church just aren't blessed with the genes for good facial hair (me included), so some do not. Many would if they could. My dad has a nice thick gray goatee and no one says a thing at the apostolic church he attends (and if they did, he'd probably tell them to well, you can guess), and my step-dad has been wearing a beard, goatee, or mustache since before I was born, and he's in ministry (Sunday School, usher, and not sure what else) at the apostolic church he and my mom attends.
I say all this to show some balance. Not every church or preacher is so uptight about having every whisker shaved and accounted for by some standards police.
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Excellent my Brother! Sounds like a Church I would like to visit.
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12-27-2013, 06:25 PM
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Re: Platform Standards
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I do. I had pictured Finney as clean shaven
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12-27-2013, 06:29 PM
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Re: Platform Standards
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Please read carefully... God did NOT say it was an abomination to HIM.
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Put me in stitches! LOL
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12-27-2013, 06:40 PM
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Re: Platform Standards
I was outreach director. Grew a beard to play Jesus in our annual drama, (wore a fake one in all the years past), and that was approved as fine w "leadership". Afterwards, I didn't shave it off so I was asked to either shave it completely off, or step down from outreach director. After a few days of thinking, I at first thought I wouldn't do either one, then decided I would just step down from my position, and expressed my thought that we have rules that are a stumbling block to Gods Kingdom advancement by not allowing God to work Spiritually thru men because of leaders unbiblical preferences and rules, that obviously would not even accept Jesus in our churches ministries. I mean after all, it was originally grown to be like Jesus. (Not to mention many other men glued fake beards for the drama).
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12-27-2013, 07:50 PM
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Re: Platform Standards
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
The BREAKING OF THE SABBATH was considered a sin that brought the death penalty. Why is this not valid today?
Let us look at abomination for a moment.
Lev. 11:9-12
9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat. 10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you: 11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination. 12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.
YAH states this is an abomination under the Mosaic law. Same as Duet. 22:5
Do you preach that if men eat catfish, shrimp, and lobsters they are going to Hell? If not why?
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Is it because you could not find "Shaving beards is an abomination" that you changed the topic to the Sabbath and Dietary laws??
I don't. Read Acts 15
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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12-27-2013, 07:53 PM
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Re: Platform Standards
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Originally Posted by shag
I was outreach director. Grew a beard to play Jesus in our annual drama, (wore a fake one in all the years past), and that was approved as fine w "leadership". Afterwards, I didn't shave it off so I was asked to either shave it completely off, or step down from outreach director. After a few days of thinking, I at first thought I wouldn't do either one, then decided I would just step down from my position, and expressed my thought that we have rules that are a stumbling block to Gods Kingdom advancement by not allowing God to work Spiritually thru men because of leaders unbiblical preferences and rules, that obviously would not even accept Jesus in our churches ministries. I mean after all, it was originally grown to be like Jesus. (Not to mention many other men grew fake beards for the drama).
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I agree that is absurd. But to be fair...wait...did you just say many other men grew FAKE beards? Please elaborate how one grows a fake beard
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-27-2013, 08:08 PM
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Re: Platform Standards
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Is it because you could not find "Shaving beards is an abomination" that you changed the topic to the Sabbath and Dietary laws??
I don't. Read Acts 15
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Im trying to point out the inconsistent application of the Old Testament by the Preachers.
I guess its "for those who have ears".
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12-27-2013, 08:44 PM
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Re: Platform Standards
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Im trying to point out the inconsistent application of the Old Testament by the Preachers.
I guess its "for those who have ears".
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But...weren't you the one that introduced the OT?
Are you saying I am lost?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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