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Old 06-18-2013, 12:14 PM
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This thread makes me think of Prax standing on his porch screaming at kids "YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN". LOL. It just makes me think of him as a grumpy old man for some reason.
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Old 06-18-2013, 12:27 PM
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Selfish selfish Prax, over 150 services in a year and you dare miss two? Wow, I thought you was better than that. Hahaha, btw, I never go those days either, haven't for years.
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

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This thread makes me think of Prax standing on his porch screaming at kids "YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN". LOL. It just makes me think of him as a grumpy old man for some reason.
Sorry, Prax, but I had to laugh a little when I read this.
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

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Let's look at the flip side for a minute:

Special programs sometimes bring in people who wouldn't normally come for a regular service.
The churches mission is not to bring in people to sit in pew for one service. Had there been a preaching/teaching message to speak TO those people, I'd agree.

but that is the whole point, there wasn't

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If they like what they feel from the members, and enjoy the music, etc. they just may come back for a regular service.
Not often, especially when they had to endure through an hour long program of honoring strangers (to them)

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What's the harm in giving up a couple of services each year to do something special for others?
See the first post. People are or could be alienated, particularly people as I mentioned: New converts who are not dads and or don't have dads, young people whose father's are in prison.

Let me ask...why CAN'T we have a "program" AND a regular service at the same time? Other churches do so I know it's possible. Why alienate people whose fathers are dead or deadbeats just so we can do something special for dads only? Don't forget that a lot of those same people might never get a special program just for them. Most people take their dads out to lunch and give them a card or something special already...

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And the problem with saying "Well, I'm not going to go since this doesn't pertain to me" is that you may rob the visitor of the full effect of the entire congregation.
...He's gonna be impressed by me sleeping in the back pew.

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Just playing Devil's Advocate here, Prax, not accusing you of anything, or saying you're wrong.

Just offerering a different viewpoint.
Can someone explain the shrill and furious fist shaking at the thought that our brothers and sisters are being alienated and that I (Im not the only one) don't go to these long boring programs? The vitriol and anger? I find that amusing. Does the DA know why people would give a rats behind what I do with my time or why rather than feel sympathy towards those whose fathers are dead, in prison or just deadbeats they instead display apathy and even disdain? Where is the Love? This thread was supposed to be about the alienated and Id say the majority of posters have instead attacked me personally instead of shown sympathy towards those who are or might be alienated by what we do?
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This thread makes me think of Prax standing on his porch screaming at kids "YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN". LOL. It just makes me think of him as a grumpy old man for some reason.
I see that burr is still tightly stuck up in your crawl.....

I can't tell you what your posts make me think of you as it would be a rule violation
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

I'm scared to post on this thread again, but here goes.....

It took me 9 years to get pregnant. Do you know how many long baby dedications I had to sit through those 9 years?? At least 30. Did I ever once think they should stop doing baby dedications. No, I didn't. Did it hurt?? Heck ya, it hurt!!
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I'm scared to post on this thread again, but here goes.....

It took me 9 years to get pregnant. Do you know how many long baby dedications I had to sit through those 9 years?? At least 30. Did I ever once think they should stop doing baby dedications. No, I didn't. Did it hurt?? Heck ya, it hurt!!
Excuse me but I never said we should STOP Father's day programs. Did I?

What did I say? I said let's have a program AND have a regular church service with the word and prayers/altar calls

And why in the world would you be led to believe you HAD to sit through them? What kind of church forces members to be there and sit through anything at all?

BTW you just proved my point! You felt alienated.
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day

I guess I could have got up and left for that part, but I wanted to support the families having their babies dedicated. I didn't want to make it about me.



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Excuse me but I never said we should STOP Father's day programs. Did I?

What did I say? I said let's have a program AND have a regular church service with the word and prayers/altar calls

And why in the world would you be led to believe you HAD to sit through them? What kind of church forces members to be there and sit through anything at all?

BTW you just proved my point! You felt alienated.
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