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Old 06-15-2012, 04:13 PM
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This statement you made intrigues me! Can you give some examples as to what men have worn to work that offends you?
Pick me, I know!

He's offended if they wear jeans and a t-shirt outside of the house. No, seriously.
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Old 06-15-2012, 04:14 PM
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Honestly, I'm all for having fun, and believe that laughter is good medicine for the soul.
But, Bro Robbins is choosing the better, and I won't fault him for it.

Ecclesiates 7

The Contrast of Wisdom and Folly

7 A good name is better than precious ointment,
and the day of death than the day of birth.
2 It is better to go to the house of mourning
than to go to the house of feasting,
for this is the end of all mankind,
and the living will lay it to heart.
3 Sorrow is better than laughter,
for by sadness of face the heart is made glad.
4 The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning,
but the heart of fools is in the house of mirth.
5 It is better for a man to hear the rebuke of the wise
than to hear the song of fools.
6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot,
so is the laughter of the fools;
this also is vanity.[a]
7 Surely oppression drives the wise into madness,
and a bribe corrupts the heart.
8 Better is the end of a thing than its beginning,
and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit.
9 Be not quick in your spirit to become angry,
for anger lodges in the heart[b] of fools.
10 Say not, “Why were the former days better than these?”
For it is not from wisdom that you ask this.
11 Wisdom is good with an inheritance,
an advantage to those who see the sun.
12 For the protection of wisdom is like the protection of money,
and the advantage of knowledge is that wisdom preserves the life of him who has it.
13 Consider the work of God:
who can make straight what he has made crooked?

14 In the day of prosperity be joyful, and in the day of adversity consider: God has made the one as well as the other, so that man may not find out anything that will be after him.

15 In my vain[c] life I have seen everything. There is a righteous man who perishes in his righteousness, and there is a wicked man who prolongs his life in his evildoing. 16 Be not overly righteous, and do not make yourself too wise. Why should you destroy yourself? 17 Be not overly wicked, neither be a fool. Why should you die before your time? 18 It is good that you should take hold of this, and from that withhold not your hand, for the one who fears God shall come out from both of them.

19 Wisdom gives strength to the wise man more than ten rulers who are in a city.

20 Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

21 Do not take to heart all the things that people say, lest you hear your servant cursing you. 22 Your heart knows that many times you yourself have cursed others.

23 All this I have tested by wisdom. I said, “I will be wise,” but it was far from me. 24 That which has been is far off, and deep, very deep; who can find it out?

25 I turned my heart to know and to search out and to seek wisdom and the scheme of things, and to know the wickedness of folly and the foolishness that is madness. 26 And I find something more bitter than death: the woman whose heart is snares and nets, and whose hands are fetters. He who pleases God escapes her, but the sinner is taken by her. 27 Behold, this is what I found, says the Preacher, while adding one thing to another to find the scheme of things— 28 which my soul has sought repeatedly, but I have not found. One man among a thousand I found, but a woman among all these I have not found. 29 See, this alone I found, that God made man upright, but they have sought out many schemes.
But....what about Ecclesiastes— There’s a time to plant, a time to reap, a time to build, a time to tear down; there’s a time to dance, a time to sing, a time to laugh, a time to cry.

Since God has, in his seasons, appointed appropriate times for laughter, and Jesus always did what was appropriate, it would seem to me that when it was time to laugh, he laughed.
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Old 06-15-2012, 04:16 PM
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She is attractive, and modest... except for what looks like make-up on her face.... but she is not sexy.
It is sad that you think make-up makes someone not attractive or modest. Like many things it should depend on how much and how it is applied.

Make-up in moderation can make a woman more attractive while still being modest. Obviously the Tammy Faye Bakker / Jan Crouch looks is NOT attractive nor makeup in moderation.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Old 06-15-2012, 04:17 PM
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This statement you made intrigues me! Can you give some examples as to what men have worn to work that offends you?
I know this wasn't addressed to me, but jeans that fall below a persons butt crack when they are bent over somewhat offends me.

Coming to work on a Sat in short short with no undies on and sitting across from me in a chair with the ankle of one leg resting on the knee of the other leg, well, offends me.
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Old 06-15-2012, 04:18 PM
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Pick me, I know!

He's offended if they wear jeans and a t-shirt outside of the house. No, seriously.
That is what I am afraid of. His answer will tell me whether he is a reasonable person or just some extremist religious wacko. If he is that there is no point in discussing this subject with him since his starting point is so far out in left field you need the Hubble telescope to find it.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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That is what I am afraid of. His answer will tell me whether he is a reasonable person or just some extremist religious wacko. If he is that there is no point in discussing this subject with him since his starting point is so far out in left field you need the Hubble telescope to find it.
He actually has already stated that in another thread.
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But....what about Ecclesiastes— There’s a time to plant, a time to reap, a time to build, a time to tear down; there’s a time to dance, a time to sing, a time to laugh, a time to cry.

Since God has, in his seasons, appointed appropriate times for laughter, and Jesus always did what was appropriate, it would seem to me that when it was time to laugh, he laughed.
I never said we should not laugh, I just don't fault Bro Robbins for choosing to be serious.
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I never said we should not laugh, I just don't fault Bro Robbins for choosing to be serious.
I don't fault him either, but to say that Jesus never had fun - - don't believe it.
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It is sad that you think make-up makes someone not attractive or modest. Like many things it should depend on how much and how it is applied.

Make-up in moderation can make a woman more attractive while still being modest. Obviously the Tammy Faye Bakker / Jan Crouch looks is NOT attractive nor makeup in moderation.
Nor is it sexy!
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I find great joy in saying those things.... and living according to the Word and as I feel led by the Holy Ghost. If you have issues with how I'm living my life, then I suggest you take it up with the Holy Ghost as I follow after the spirit.

Furthermore, I'm not a liar.... and unless you have proof that I am a liar, I would think you should take a brother at his word, and if he says he is content and has joy, then who are you to argue and doubt it?

Just because it doesn't fit in your definition or box.... hmmm.... same criticisms the liberal folks have of us conservative guys....

So, you all preach tolerance, but don't want to give it... IC... now I understand.
I'm not saying your a liar. I think you truly believe that you have joy. All I'm saying is that your words betray you...........but, if this lifestyle gives you a feeling of joy, then I'm happy for you.

But, you really get defensive when someone questions it, which is another blatant indicator that you're trying to convince yourself...........
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