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05-20-2007, 08:52 PM
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please don't turn this into an anti-apo thread.
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05-20-2007, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
please don't turn this into an anti-apo thread.
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the thread's name is what the world sees as apostolic and i got the nerve up to ask someone and that was what i was told. sad. i admit.
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05-20-2007, 09:04 PM
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I'm curious to know what your acquaintance apostolic means. The more stories we hear, the more the evidence will be documented people do not generally see Jesus in an apostolic.
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This why I rather call myself a follower of Jesus these days. When I was in the church I'd say, I'm apostolic, and most would roll their eyes and say please don't even go there, or your the crazy ones who roll on the floor and talk in tongues. Or I knew someone who was Pentecost , or I visited a Apostolic church once and I have nothing good to say about you people. So I drop it.
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05-20-2007, 09:06 PM
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FN, You have two options. Fight like mad to redefine apostolic, or just drop the subjective label from your vocabulary all together. I have chosen the latter since no one can find scripture defining what an apostolic is. If I fight to change the label, I'm only addiing to the confusion by adding another subjective definition to the already muddied waters.
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the thread's name is what the world sees as apostolic and i got the nerve up to ask someone and that was what i was told. sad. i admit.
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05-20-2007, 09:11 PM
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FN, You have two options. Fight like mad to redefine apostolic, or just drop the subjective label from your vocabulary all together. I have chosen the latter since no one can find scripture defining what an apostolic is. If I fight to change the label, I'm only addiing to the confusion by adding another subjective definition to the already muddied waters.
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no way one person can do much good in trying to redefine apostolic. so, you don't use apostolic or pentecostal?? what about oneness Christian? that's what i prefer.
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05-20-2007, 09:11 PM
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It's a hard habit to break, but I'm slowly getting away from mentioning denominational affiliation. It all gets back to the I'm something you are not mentality.
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Originally Posted by CupCake
This why I rather call myself a follower of Jesus these days. When I was in the church I'd say, I'm apostolic, and most would roll their eyes and say please don't even go there, or your the crazy ones who roll on the floor and talk in tongues. Or I knew someone who was Pentecost , or I visited a Apostolic church once and I have nothing good to say about you people. So I drop it.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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05-20-2007, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tv1a
FN, You have two options. Fight like mad to redefine apostolic, or just drop the subjective label from your vocabulary all together. I have chosen the latter since no one can find scripture defining what an apostolic is. If I fight to change the label, I'm only addiing to the confusion by adding another subjective definition to the already muddied waters.
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To me a true Apostolic would be someone who Christ like, and that's a far cry from a wardrobe change....
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05-20-2007, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tv1a
It's a hard habit to break, but I'm slowly getting away from mentioning denominational affiliation. It all gets back to the I'm something you are not mentality.
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I have found by sharing the good news without adding, "I'm apostolic/Pentecostal" has made it a lot easier, and people tend to be more open. Where as before they put up a wall, move on.
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05-20-2007, 09:21 PM
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I believe it the band Chicago that sang "You're a Hard Habit to Break". I'm working on dropping the word apostolic from my vocabulary.
I know it's hard for many to believe but God isn't pentecostal or apostolic. God isn't a christian. God isn't trinitarian or oneness. God is God, period. When I get to heaven, I won't see a penetecosal or apostolic on the throne. I will see Jesus.
I'm not going to label myself becasue once I do, I paint God in this little box based on my labels.
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Originally Posted by FRINGE_NUTTER
no way one person can do much good in trying to redefine apostolic. so, you don't use apostolic or pentecostal?? what about oneness Christian? that's what i prefer.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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05-20-2007, 09:25 PM
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There is a term in the Bible that means christ-like. That is a christian. The word christian was a derrogatory term used against followers of Christ. Not one person had to identify themselves as a christian. People knew they were christians because they were followers of Christ.
God impressed on my if I have to tell people I'm a christian, than maybe I'm not the christian I should be. When I'm living right. People will know. I won't have to wear a lapel pin or put a bumper sticker on my car. People will know. My ultimate goal is to live so people see Jesus and not me. When they see Jesus, they will see someone who is a christian.
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Originally Posted by CupCake
To me a true Apostolic would be someone who Christ like, and that's a far cry from a wardrobe change.... 
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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