All tips concerning the whereabouts of bin laden from GWB's days, and his cabinet's days lead to dead ends.
This means that GWB, his people, his policies, failed to deliver bin laden-- dead or alive.
This tip that lead to bin laden's demise originated under Obama. How many years has he been in office already? how many years has Pannetta been where he is-- and was he there before?
He acted upon the intel given to him, garnered by the people that enacted his cabinet's policies, with wisdom and courage.
Leon Pannetta should get credit because of his position.
Of course, thouse who carried out the plan should get the most credit.
But to say that GWB and Obama deserve the same level of credit on this is the same as saying the GWB and Obama deserve the same level of blame for Abu Gharib.
Different Presidents.
Different Cabinets.
Different Times.
Different Strategies.
Different Outcomes.
Well JD it's great that you finally got over "blaming Bush!" But if Obama had kept his word we wouldn't even be in that area. Everybody would be back home and we would be probably dodging terrorists bombings daily.
Yep! Mr Pannetta was so good he's being moved on to something else.
Let me see if I understand this. All the intel that they used has been totally discovered since Obama came into office. Nothing was gathered during any of the time Bush was in office?
Did they gather any info from the prisoners in Gitmo? Who put the prisoners in Gitmo? If Obama had had his way there wouldn't be any prisoners in Gitmo to gather info from.
Go ahead and drink your lemonade, JD. And support your man! (I know you're supposedly Republican...but who could tell?)
Been Thinkin
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Cindy, I concur. I was just responding to what was said about what the President said about the war on terror. I say that you can disagree with whatever politician you wish to...there's plenty to disagree with all around. But what shouldn't be happening is making up things or revising history. That just clouds the conversation.
Yes, I got that. I think there is enough shame AND glory to go around. If it's true that he's dead, which I am not sure if I believe he is or isn't. Or, when it happened. I have very little trust in our government to be truthful. And that is sad.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Will we as Americans be punished for helping create such a man? Just like we did with Saddam Hussein, we fund, build, and use corrupted leaders, including Osama Bin Laden, to fulfill our cause.
We send these people further into the mold of destruction, while in the corridor of Truth, blood is on our hands.
America hides behind Her Military escapades as being Just, as Hundreds of Thousands of people are slaughtered by our bombs and guns. The False Flag Operation of WMD's in Iraq left innocent, dead people lying in the streets, and where is the Justice?
I guess Gadhafi is next.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Well JD it's great that you finally got over "blaming Bush!" But if Obama had kept his word we wouldn't even be in that area. Everybody would be back home and we would be probably dodging terrorists bombings daily.
Yep! Mr Pannetta was so good he's being moved on to something else.
Let me see if I understand this. All the intel that they used has been totally discovered since Obama came into office. Nothing was gathered during any of the time Bush was in office?
Did they gather any info from the prisoners in Gitmo? Who put the prisoners in Gitmo? If Obama had had his way there wouldn't be any prisoners in Gitmo to gather info from.
Go ahead and drink your lemonade, JD. And support your man! (I know you're supposedly Republican...but who could tell?)
Been Thinkin
Thank you for responding for me. I thought it might be a waste of my time. LOL!
Well JD it's great that you finally got over "blaming Bush!" But if Obama had kept his word we wouldn't even be in that area. Everybody would be back home and we would be probably dodging terrorists bombings daily.
Yep! Mr Pannetta was so good he's being moved on to something else.
Let me see if I understand this. All the intel that they used has been totally discovered since Obama came into office. Nothing was gathered during any of the time Bush was in office?
Did they gather any info from the prisoners in Gitmo? Who put the prisoners in Gitmo? If Obama had had his way there wouldn't be any prisoners in Gitmo to gather info from.
Go ahead and drink your lemonade, JD. And support your man! (I know you're supposedly Republican...but who could tell?)
Been Thinkin
Actually, one source is saying that's exactly what has happened in how they found where he was.
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Well JD it's great that you finally got over "blaming Bush!" But if Obama had kept his word we wouldn't even be in that area. Everybody would be back home and we would be probably dodging terrorists bombings daily.
Yep! Mr Pannetta was so good he's being moved on to something else.
Let me see if I understand this. All the intel that they used has been totally discovered since Obama came into office. Nothing was gathered during any of the time Bush was in office?
Did they gather any info from the prisoners in Gitmo? Who put the prisoners in Gitmo? If Obama had had his way there wouldn't be any prisoners in Gitmo to gather info from.
Go ahead and drink your lemonade, JD. And support your man! (I know you're supposedly Republican...but who could tell?)
Been Thinkin
How do you guys make this stuff up? Obama has been consistently saying that he wants to focus on the war on terror, and to that end he was scaling back in Iraq (which he saw as a distraction from the real war on terror) and focusing on the Afghan/Pakistan area. He has always called for increased presence and activity in Afghanistan and Pakistan as that represented a larger, real danger to us.
I think it just weakens arguments on either side when you just revise history and throw it out there. I'm just standing up to point it out because very few people here will because I guess it would involve crossing the party line in some way.
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How do you guys make this stuff up? Obama has been consistently saying that he wants to focus on the war on terror, and to that end he was scaling back in Iraq (which he saw as a distraction from the real war on terror) and focusing on the Afghan/Pakistan area. He has always called for increased presence and activity in Afghanistan and Pakistan as that represented a larger, real danger to us.
I think it just weakens arguments on either side when you just revise history and throw it out there. I'm just standing up to point it out because very few people here will because I guess it would involve crossing the party line in some way.
So Stew, please tell me when Obama became a war president! I seem to remember his criticism of Bush and all of the wars as he was trying to get elected. Now that he's in the saddle he's decided he likes the horse he's riding. Doesn't want to get his rear end bucked off. Obama is the Magna Cum Laude of politicians. He should have got a "Piece Prize" for being so many pieces for so many puzzles in which he wasn't even a part of.
Take up for him. And as far as history goes, look back in a few years and you'll find out what history does for him. Of course, he probably will rewrite history himself. It doesn't matter to him what he says.
Been Thinkin
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"From the time you're born, 'til you ride in the hearse, there ain't nothing bad that couldn't be worse!"
LIFE: Some days you're the dog and some days you're the hydrant!
I have ... Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia! The fear of long words.
"Prediction is very hard, especially about the future." - Yogi Berra
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave in reflection." - Thomas Paine
I thought it might be a waste of my time. LOL!
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