Your thoughts on the Shoe Auction @ Conference - Page 13

rgcraig · #**121** 10-02-2010, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Margies3

Really? that's what conference is about - raising massive amounts of money by selling off people's shoes?? I guess I've been out a lot longer than I thought. Or else I never understood what the conferences were all about to begin with. I'm not disagreeing with you, Renda. Just trying to figure this out in my own mind.

I still think it's sad. Because IF conference really is about raising all this money - that's got to break God's heart. I always thought it was about sharing the Gospel, rejoicing with fellow believers and spending time in the presence of the Lord. But then again, I was never privileged to go to a conference, so I probably have been wrong all along.

Renda, I don't want you to think that I'm arguing with you. I have the highest respect for you.

You can argue with me, but I don't feel that you are.

It's not ALL that conference is about, but yes - they are there to raise money, make money (selling books), being with fellow believers, taking care of business, having church, etc.

Liberal · #**122** 10-02-2010, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I think it's their gig and they can take up offering any way they want to - it's no surprise they have marathon's taking up special offerings at GC.

Don't understand what the big deal is with you guys.

So it's no big deal to you to auction off personal clothing items of significant talking religious heads of the past? While you don't see what the big deal is with "you guys", I suppose I don't understand why it isn't a big deal to you. I guarantee you a very large part of that audience was insulted by it. In the days to come that statement will be proven. And just because it's "Their gig" doesn't mean they have the right to treat people the way they do.

Sam · #**123** 10-02-2010, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Liberal

Maybe next year they could auction underwear.

well, if it's ladies' underwear remember the scriptural prohibition on it being bifurcated.

rgcraig · #**124** 10-02-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Liberal

So it's no big deal to you to auction off personal clothing items of significant talking religious heads of the past? While you don't see what the big deal is with "you guys", I suppose I don't understand why it isn't a big deal to you. I guarantee you a very large part of that audience was insulted by it. In the days to come that statement will be proven. And just because it's "Their gig" doesn't mean they have the right to treat people the way they do.

Sis. Agnew painted a picture every year while she was able to and it was "auctioned" off for Harvest Time each GC. It was a way to raise money.

I doubt many had a second thought about it.

Is it the auctioning to raise money that you object to or that it's personal clothing items of significant talking religious heads of the past?

canam · #**125** 10-02-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie

There is nothing more depressing than to watch people have a goood time and be left out.

Liberal · #**126** 10-02-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

Sis. Agnew painted a picture every year while she was able to and it was "auctioned" off for Harvest Time each GC. It was a way to raise money.

I doubt many had a second thought about it.

Is it the auctioning to raise money that you object to or that it's personal clothing items of significant talking religious heads of the past?

She painted a picture for a purpose. The picture fulfilled its purpose. Can the same be said for those shoes? But honestly, any kind of auction in a church service brings back the "Moneychanger" environment.

coadie · #**127** 10-02-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Liberal

She painted a picture for a purpose. The picture fulfilled its purpose. Can the same be said for those shoes? But honestly, any kind of auction in a church service brings back the "Moneychanger" environment.

You have Wall Street confused with the Church. They do ebay and craigs list in home churches. You don't whine about them.

Liberal · #**128** 10-02-2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie

You have Wall Street confused with the Church. They do ebay and craigs list in home churches. You don't whine about them.

Don't mean to be rude, but this doesn't make any sense.

Esther · #**129** 10-03-2010, 12:18 AM

I was there, it happened. I knew if Bro. Barnes was there he would not approve of his shoes being auctioned. I would love to have been able to have them, because I respect his ministry. I believe he was a prophet of God.

The goal was to raise money for Home Missions that is greatly needed.

So I hope no one that has a bake sale auction is offended by someone spending 500.00 for a cake some special sister baked.

Esther · #**130** 10-03-2010, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DAII

Thank you Pela for clearing that up for sweet Falla who in another thread said it was essentially going to abortions. Here is Komen's statement on the matter and their financials:

http://ww5.komen.org/Content.aspx?id=16162

If Falla insists I'm going to ask her how long she will continue to support the US war machine that's has killed tens of thousands of innocents with her taxes.

I would like to see such financial transparency from HMD so we know how much of what was raised really gets in the hands of the unchurched and the home missionary.

Very easy to spend other people's hard earned $$$

You forgot to mention that you are also supporting them with YOUR taxes. That is not something you really have a choice in. The next best thing is vote out the party you disagree with.