I ciome from a no makeup/jewelry background, but must admit it's not as clear in the bible as some would like it to be.
I was reading exodus the other day and notice the priest garments was decked out for glory and beauty. So if beauty is vain and unholy then why was it commanded for them to enter the holy place???
Out of all the specific commands in the OT law why not one command mentions adornment of jewels/makeup????
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I ciome from a no makeup/jewelry background, but must admit it's not as clear in the bible as some would like it to be.
I was reading exodus the other day and notice the priest garments was decked out for glory and beauty. So if beauty is vain and unholy then why was it commanded for them to enter the holy place???
Out of all the specific commands in the OT law why not one command mentions adornment of jewels/makeup????
Reading through the Old Testament, you'll find many references that show God approving adornment. I can't find where God ever equated 'plainness' with godliness.
I have been away from AFF, and haven't read this thread, but after reading your post, I have an appeal for you as well.
Could you please let God know that He REALLY messed things up when He created woman and gave her the desires that He did? The desire for beautiful things, soft things, lacey, frilly things. Colorful things, pretty things.
It's because of this that makes me a woman. And different from you, a man.
I love to make my house nice, my hair nice, to dress nice, and to wear make-up that enhances my own beauty. I want everything to be beautiful.
How dare God create us with that???
If you ask me, it's those that refrain, calling it Godly, that are actually fighting against the very nature that God created in them.
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I have been away from AFF, and haven't read this thread, but after reading your post, I have an appeal for you as well.
Could you please let God know that He REALLY messed things up when He created woman and gave her the desires that He did? The desire for beautiful things, soft things, lacey, frilly things. Colorful things, pretty things.
It's because of this that makes me a woman. And different from you, a man.
I love to make my house nice, my hair nice, to dress nice, and to wear make-up that enhances my own beauty. I want everything to be beautiful.
How dare God create us with that???
If you ask me, it's those that refrain, calling it Godly, that are actually fighting against the very nature that God created in them.
Wow! I didn't even see this cool thread and it's already filling up! Way to go yisroelm! I envy your gifts and talent!
I am not the "Ultra Con" type - I don't even like to use the label on those who are. However, I think yisroelm does touch on some important points here.
I have a teen aged daughter and she doesn't wear makeup and does "follow the dress code." However, watching her grow up, I've seen how the whole "self image" thing that girls go through can be painful and really does pile on useless nonsense in demanding that they make certain purchases and support the multi-billion dollar fashion industry.
I think that a complete "natural" approach is often called for - at least from time to time. I see some of the kids she brings home from school and takes to the youth group and my heart breaks for them. There is an element of what I would call "abuse" being marketed here to our kids - IMHO.
However, while what you plaster on you face may indicate some of the pain and conflict within your heart - to completely abstain for "touch up" or tinted Clearasil and lip gloss as matter of "salvation" doesn't line up with anything in the Bible.
I just have problems with the targeted marketing. Real problems.
Thanks for the encouragement,I needed it AVERY rough day. I love good dialog . You should hear when my friend the Campbellite preacher and I have a systamatic Bible "disscussion" you would almost think he has the Holy Ghost. LOL!
Thanks for the encouragement,I needed it AVERY rough day. I love good dialog . You should hear when my friend the Campbellite preacher and I have a systamatic Bible "disscussion" you would almost think he has the Holy Ghost. LOL!
How do you know he doesn't?
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We should all work out our salvation with fear and trembling...eternity is a long time to be wrong...
While I try not to judge the Bible does say a tree is known by its fruits...It is what is inside the tree that determines the fruit it bears
Sis we commend you and your family for the work you do on the mission field.I have looked at your pictures and the Brazilian culture seems fascinating. They seem like meek people . To my knowledge I only saw you folks once when I was a teenager @ campmeeting many ,many years ago.I only ever dated one other girl beside my wife , which consisted of a Church dinner and chaperoned a couple of times out to eat. LOL! I believe it is good that way. One of my favorite preachers was Elder Carl Ballestero , also Elder Ervin Wright , and Elder Hale can really cry aloud , do you know them?Another great man I admire is Elder Samuel Mena he is as straight as an arrow and sharp as a sword.Do you know him?
I come from a UC background too. All I can say is that there isn't any Scripture prohibitting makeup. However, modesty, as with our clothing (not talking about dress codes) should be considered. Just don't over do it.
What truly separates us from the world isn't how we look... it's how we live and behave. Obey these ten simple "standards"... and you'll be as separate as God intends you to be. But be cautious... obeying these ten standards can't save you... only Jesus can:
I
Thou shalt have no other gods before Me (Believe in ONE God) II
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image (Do not participate in idolatry) III
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord
thy God in vain, for the Lord will not
hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain (Reverence the name of Jesus) IV
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy (Set time aside for worship at least once a week) V
Honor thy father and thy mother,
that thy days may be long upon the land
which the Lord thy God giveth thee (Honor your parents and value family) VI
Thou shalt not murder (Honor life and do not seek to kill or assinate one's character) VII
Thou shalt not commit adultery (Be faithful to your spouse both inwardly and outwardly) VIII
Thou shalt not steal (Respect other people's property and do not take it) IX
Thou shalt not bear false witness
against thy neighbor (Always be of honest report) X
Thou shalt not covet (Be thankful for what you have and don't be consumed with lust and materialism)
I come from a UC background too. All I can say is that there isn't any Scripture prohibitting makeup. However, modesty, as with our clothing (not talking about dress codes) should be considered. Just don't over do it.
What truly separates us from the world isn't how we look... it's how we live and behave. Obey these ten simple "standards"... and you'll be as separate as God intends you to be. But be cautious... obeying these ten standards can't save you... only Jesus can:
I
Thou shalt have no other gods before Me (Believe in ONE God) II
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image (Do not participate in idolatry) III
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord
thy God in vain, for the Lord will not
hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain (Reverence the name of Jesus) IV
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy (Set time aside for worship at least once a week) V
Honor thy father and thy mother,
that thy days may be long upon the land
which the Lord thy God giveth thee (Honor your parents and value family) VI
Thou shalt not murder (Honor life and do not seek to kill or assinate one's character) VII
Thou shalt not commit adultery (Be faithful to your spouse both inwardly and outwardly) VIII
Thou shalt not steal (Respect other people's property and do not take it) IX
Thou shalt not bear false witness
against thy neighbor (Always be of honest report) X
Thou shalt not covet (Be thankful for what you have and don't be consumed with lust and materialism)
Now that's separation God's way.
You mean it's good to obey them, but it won't do you any good?
BTW, if II means don't have any idols, it's not much different from I, have no other gods, is it? Are they both needed, really? (Unless II actually means don't make any graven image. Which might outlaw photography n stuff.)
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