Apostolic Friends Forum
Tab Menu 1
Go Back   Apostolic Friends Forum > The Fellowship Hall > The Newsroom > Political Talk
Facebook

Notices

Political Talk Political News


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #121  
Old 11-18-2009, 10:48 AM
MissBrattified's Avatar
MissBrattified MissBrattified is offline
Administrator


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,829
Re: Obama Bows to Japanese Emperor

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esther View Post
How so?

Renda's post was quoting an expert.
My post quoted an expert, and I also go the opinion of a missionary who spent years in Japan.

Did you read these posts?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MissBrattified View Post
Japanese Say Obama Bow "Appropriate" Show of Respect

""When visiting a foreign country, it is an admirable international manner to follow the country's own protocol," he said.

"It should be praised and never deserve criticism. In Japan, bowing never means the person underestimates himself.""

Quote:
Originally Posted by MissBrattified View Post
A friend of mine and her husband were missionaries to Japan at one time, and so I emailed her and asked about Obama's bow. Here is her answer:

"Interesting! I don't know about the Saudi bow thing, but this would be the "appropriate" bow to the Emperor - notice his eyes are down cast - not bowing while looking up - that's in poor taste to anyone - especially to the emp. My guess is that he had advisors that instructed him on Japanese/Emp. etiquette. I think you're right, though - it probably looks exaggerated because of his height. What's the deal w/ the Saudi king??"
__________________
"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone


"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."

--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Reply With Quote
  #122  
Old 11-18-2009, 11:03 AM
Light Light is offline
Solid 3 Stepper


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,802
Re: Obama Bows to Japanese Emperor

Quote:
Originally Posted by MissBrattified View Post
My post quoted an expert, and I also go the opinion of a missionary who spent years in Japan.

Did you read these posts?

I don't mean to be mean, but look at the track record.
Reply With Quote
  #123  
Old 11-18-2009, 11:14 AM
rgcraig's Avatar
rgcraig rgcraig is offline
My Family!


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Collierville, TN
Posts: 31,786
Re: Obama Bows to Japanese Emperor

Light,

Take your blood pressure meds!

I just posted a link for others to read.
__________________
Master of Science in Applied Disgruntled Religious Theorist Wrangling
PhD in Petulant Tantrum Quelling
Dean of the School of Hard Knocks
Reply With Quote
  #124  
Old 11-18-2009, 01:17 PM
Jeffrey Jeffrey is offline
Banned


 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,178
Re: Obama Bows to Japanese Emperor

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquila View Post
Jesus told the disciples to respect the Pharisee's authority because they sit in the seat of Moses. Jesus and Paul both were for offering respect for authority and those who held it.
Respecting them, as he called them snakes, vipers and full of dead bones in the next breath.
Reply With Quote
  #125  
Old 11-18-2009, 01:21 PM
Jeffrey Jeffrey is offline
Banned


 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,178
Re: Obama Bows to Japanese Emperor

Aquila, from a Christian standpoint, I don't much care for gun blazing, chest-pounding antics. From a civic perspective (my membership as a citizen of this world), I think it is important that certain policy be "tough" so as to maintain the status as the leader of the free world. Make no mistake about it, America has no choice. Anything less, will turn into defeat. Once you get this high, you can't say "maybe we can just be like France." It's too late. The only way backward is a giant crashing and falling.

This is why I was so invested in the Pacifism debate, and am still considering that. There is a dichotomy between one's views as a Christian and his views as a citizen of a democratic nation.
Reply With Quote
  #126  
Old 11-18-2009, 01:54 PM
Ferd's Avatar
Ferd Ferd is offline
I remain the Petulant Chevalier


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 17,524
Re: Obama Bows to Japanese Emperor

All I am saying is a grown man ought to be able to shake hands without losing control of his spine...
__________________
If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
My Countdown Counting down to: Days left till the end of the opressive Texas Summer!
Reply With Quote
  #127  
Old 11-19-2009, 07:06 PM
Jermyn Davidson's Avatar
Jermyn Davidson Jermyn Davidson is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In His Hands
Posts: 13,914
Re: Obama Bows to Japanese Emperor

I understand the logic of doing what he did.

His attempts to change the world's perception of America as arrogant are not understood by many Americans, unfortunately.




Maybe we are blinded by our own arrogance.
__________________
"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
Reply With Quote
  #128  
Old 11-19-2009, 07:17 PM
SOUNWORTHY's Avatar
SOUNWORTHY SOUNWORTHY is offline
La vie est un voyage


 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: In two of the most beautiful states in the U.S.A
Posts: 1,676
Re: Obama Bows to Japanese Emperor

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson View Post
I understand the logic of doing what he did.

His attempts to change the world's perception of America as arrogant are not understood by many Americans, unfortunately.




Maybe we are blinded by our own arrogance.
Please speak for yourself. You couldn't be referring to me and most other true Americans and this Great country we live in. Check to see what America has done for almost every other country when they were in time of diaster. Arrogant is a word that very well describes your beloved president.
Reply With Quote
  #129  
Old 11-19-2009, 07:23 PM
Jermyn Davidson's Avatar
Jermyn Davidson Jermyn Davidson is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In His Hands
Posts: 13,914
Re: Obama Bows to Japanese Emperor

Quote:
Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY View Post
Please speak for yourself. You couldn't be referring to me and most other true Americans and this Great country we live in. Check to see what America has done for almost every other country when they were in time of diaster. Arrogant is a word that very well describes your beloved president.

Ok.

As if it hasn't been discussed at great lengths and even joked about-- you know, the whole "ugly American" that goes abroad and shows their butt.

Ok.

As if former President Bush, VP Cheney and Rumsfield were not perceived in as arrogant in word and action, by the international community.

The current President is trying to perform damage control.


Now this is where someone chimes in with some stupid remark close to, "Damage control? He's destroying America!!!"

Because evey Conservative knows that President Obama hates the USA!


That is, every Conservative except this one.
__________________
"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
Reply With Quote
  #130  
Old 11-19-2009, 10:31 PM
Esther's Avatar
Esther Esther is offline
Administrator


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 12,362
Re: Obama Bows to Japanese Emperor

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson View Post
Ok.

As if it hasn't been discussed at great lengths and even joked about-- you know, the whole "ugly American" that goes abroad and shows their butt.

Ok.

As if former President Bush, VP Cheney and Rumsfield were not perceived in as arrogant in word and action, by the international community.

The current President is trying to perform damage control.


Now this is where someone chimes in with some stupid remark close to, "Damage control? He's destroying America!!!"

Because evey Conservative knows that President Obama hates the USA!


That is, every Conservative except this one.
Jermyn I don't think you know what a Conservative is, because OB is anything but conservative, and you seem to think he is great.

America doesn't need damage control, thank you very much. I do not believe America is arrogrant, but those that are saying we are seem to have the problem if you ask me.

America gives more to poor countries than any other. We are the first to respond when disasters happen. Do you consider that to be arrogrant?

I think it is time we stopped giving our money and let them survive with their own goofy laws. They want to be a socialist nation, they reap the harvest and don't look to America.

I am extremely tired of so called Americans feeling we need to apologize to the world for something we haven't done. We are arrogrant because we don't bow to their every wish!
__________________
Happy moments, PRAISE GOD.
Difficult moments, SEEK GOD.
Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD.
Painful moments, TRUST GOD.
Every moment, THANK GOD.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Obama giving up on Obama Care? Jason B Political Talk 15 08-31-2009 07:31 AM
Obama bows to Saudi King Esther Political Talk 70 04-08-2009 07:44 PM
Obama Lawsuit "Obama Served with Papers" U376977 Political Talk 56 09-08-2008 01:36 PM
obama in 08 brodano Political Talk 5 08-06-2008 10:43 PM

 
User Infomation
Your Avatar

Latest Threads
- by jfrog
- by Salome
- by Amanah

Help Support AFF!

Advertisement




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.