Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Elizabeth
In a pre 911 world yes, but post 911 it seems like everything has changed, and I am not wanting to deal with any rogue agents personally, so I am not taking any chances with big amounts of cash in the view of all to see-
Folks...consider this. We're still on a war footing. There are people out there dedicated to destroying us. And yes....they carry large amounts of cash. And it's common for them to break it up among a group of people and carry it through separately. This is war.
Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Elizabeth
Also accompanied by large amounts of cash it seems.
No accompanying cash necessary.
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Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Ferd
Elizabeth, if the guy was carrying a pocket knife, I would agree. But cash is NO reason what so every to retain anyone. Cash is NOT a threat.
However, considering people suspicious and thereby giving law enforcement the right to detain, search, and perform inquires about an individual with cash, marches down the dangerous road of eroding very important freedoms that we Americans have held sacrosanct for a couple hundred years.
9/11 is no excuse to hand over basic freedom to the Police.
I totally agree with you, but Ferd. So what do we do, not use caution? I just don't have the patiences to insist on me using my liberties when someone with more power than I, is insisting on abusing theirs.
Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Folks...consider this. We're still on a war footing. There are people out there dedicated to destroying us. And yes....they carry large amounts of cash. And it's common for them to break it up among a group of people and carry it through separately. This is war.
You are buying it hook, line and sinker aren't you.
But... nevertheless...
Do share with us some of those directives that we need to review.
Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Folks...consider this. We're still on a war footing. There are people out there dedicated to destroying us. And yes....they carry large amounts of cash. And it's common for them to break it up among a group of people and carry it through separately. This is war.
So, you are saying that, as a precaution, they were probably running a background check to clear him while they were talking to him?
Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Elizabeth
I totally agree with you, but Ferd. So what do we do, not use caution? I just don't have the patiences to insist on me using my liberties when someone with more power than I, is insisting on abusing theirs.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
One more point. Some have suggested that the actions of this fellow were careless or unwise or what ever.
The point that must be understood is that, this simply doesn’t matter. It isn’t the business of the government to protect an individual from themselves when that individual is doing something lawful. Period. That kind of thinking has led to numerous laws that erode our basic freedom.
So if this guys actions were not the same as what any of us would do, that has no bearing on weather or not the authorities had a right to detain him.
This particular case ought to be important to every one of us. This fellow was carrying cash.
There is an underlying, very important concern here. Cash cannot be traced. The government cannot tell what a person is doing when they buy a book with cash. There isn’t anything to trace.
I am no conspiracy theorist in any way shape or form. I think Ron Paul is kooky on quite a few issues. But THIS issue is important. Cash is a protection against invasive government and EVERYONE ought to be very guarded when the government is asking questions about your cash.
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