Homestead Heritage in waco tx

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Eat the meat throw away the bones?

Is that how you roll?

Whoops!

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

So?
How was Heritage Homestead?
Give the report.

Usually it is quite an invigorating Fair. They are in the forefront of crafts, homesteading and similar concepts, that has been a valid vision since the 70s (Blair and Regina were reading Wendell Berry and visited The Farm in Summertown, TN. The fellership did visit the Amish and/or Mennonites in Pennsylvania, one church was in Linzer, PA, and there was a similar visit to Ware, MA, thinking of buying land). And the food is quite good and reasonably priced. We will see what Nicodemus1968 says. They go out of their way to be friendly, and are quite sincere.

They leave most of the yahweh stuff in the background, so as to keep the Christian visitors comfortable. Shhh, hush-hush, mush-mush As I understand, they all read a little guide-book as to how to answer questions. They try to give the impression that they have real top-notch scholarship behind their yahweh and yahshua disasters. However, what is in their books barely rises to the level of sophistry, and they never even claim even yahweh with conviction, just a possibility, and a non-promise. Note though that their public bookstore now has a book blaring "yahweh" on the cover. This is new, afaik, out of the dark closet.

One interesting point is trying to receive or buy a Bible. In my last visits it was not possible. They did point me to a corruption version Greek workbook that they use for teaching children Greek. As if that was a Bible.

Share away, Nicodemus1968, I believe it is very helpful to discern the pluses and minues.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

Usually it is quite an invigorating Fair. They are in the forefront of crafts, homesteading and similar concepts, that has been a valid vision since the 70s (Blair and Regina were reading Wendell Berry and visited The Farm in Summertown, TN. The fellership did visit the Amish and/or Mennonites in Pennsylvania, one church was in Linzer, PA, and there was a similar visit to Ware, MA, thinking of buying land). And the food is quite good and reasonably priced. We will see what Nicodemus1968 says. They go out of their way to be friendly, and are quite sincere.

They leave most of the yahweh stuff in the background, so as to keep the Christian visitors comfortable. Shhh, hush-hush, mush-mush As I understand, they all read a little guide-book as to how to answer questions. They try to give the impression that they have real top-notch scholarship behind their yahweh and yahshua disasters. However, what is in their books barely rises to the level of sophistry, and they never even claim even yahweh with conviction, just a possibility, and a non-promise. Note though that their public bookstore now has a book blaring "yahweh" on the cover. This is new, afaik, out of the dark closet.

One interesting point is trying to receive or buy a Bible. In my last visits it was not possible. They did point me to a corruption version Greek workbook that they use for teaching children Greek. As if that was a Bible.

Share away, Nicodemus1968, I believe it is very helpful to discern the pluses and minues.

Did Homestead Heritage have any involvement with Yoneq Sprigg and the 12 Tribes?

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Did Homestead Heritage have any involvement with Yoneq Sprigg and the 12 Tribes?

No direct involvement, afaik.

Let me try to be very accurate.

Once a fellow left and visited his sister at their community by the NY-southern-VT border, later returning. I stopped there once for an hour or two and have had a few other points of contact, Billy Graham at Flushing Meadows Park, Central Park Israel Days, Asheville community. And I will not pray with them, e.g. before dinner, when they lift up Yahshua. An AOL friend, in Ithaca, got involved, years back.

A Homestead Heritage elder has allowed that their elder-authority submission could be salvational, even if doctrines are awry. This is unlikely to be more than a voice account.

They would consider Twelve Tribes as too radical Sacred Namer in not using the name of Jesus at all. They weakly try to bring forth this type of distinction in one book. Also Homestead Heritage likes to be able to straddle issues like those around Christian and Jewish and pagan holidays. I know up to at least around 2000 I could be shocked and run into a Christmas tree in an elder’s home.

Whatever the elders approve.

The elders would call the occasional sabbath, not a 7th-day or Sunday rhythm. They could also approve a ‘marriage’ even if a covenant spouse was alive, as long as the covenant spouse is not in the fellership, and seems to have rejected their community. This has led to awkward situations.

Members have essentially signed away scriptural conscience disagreement liberty. Many, many documents to sign. (I had 0 siggies in my almost decade of full involvement.). They essentially sign that the elders are the authority of God manifest. This makes it difficult to challenge their scriptural blunders and it makes it hard to leave gently and smoothly. Lots of shunning and quasi-shunning.

It was a shock that Homestead Heritage embraced Yahshua c. 1990. Clearly, they used absurd arguments they found scouring Sacred Name groups, especially the Missouri group, YAIM if I remember. They would try to track down any pseudo-scholarship reference in the YAIM footnotes!

They are totally stuck now in false doctrine, using and worshiipping one ‘name’ that is actually devilish, Yahweh, and the related one that is non-Hebrew gibberish, Yahshua. They actively extol ‘Yahweh-worship’. Jesus has some usage, they want to appear Christian, however internally It seems safe to say the primacy is now with the gibberish Yahshua. Jehovah / Yehovah is totally unused, except as a point of attack.

When youngsters were following the false teachings and singing a blasphemy ditty chorus “there is no God named Jehovah” they reined that in, as it could be embarrassing. Part of their outreach is to folks in old-time Reformation traditions, like Hutterite and Mennonite. In those traditions, many embrace pure Reformation Bibles akin to the Authorized Version. And use the true name Jehovah, with perhaps a Dutch or German or French pronunciation. In fact the true Bible believers in those traditions are unlikely to be bamboozeled. Many old time Baptists and Pentecostals similarly have a Holy Spirit protection with their Authorized Version and true names Jesus and Jehovah.

Good question!

[Nicodemus1968]

I didn’t make it to Homestead Heritage.

I know you guys are going to be upset, I was actually bummed that my family and I wasnt able to go. I wanted to bring a good report back... LOL I do have family there just south of there, next time we go Ill be sure to do it before I arrive at my families house.

I had to get out of Southern Texas, the mindset of the Bible Belt is something else. No offense to anyone, its just different that’s all I’m going to say.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Eat the meat throw away the bones?

Is that how you roll?

Brother, I’m not sure your being serious or joking. On the other hand, yes I believe in moderation. I’m not going there (planed to) to get spiritual insight into salvation, or growing closer to His Spirit. I’m going for the country style, backwoods country living.

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

I’m going for the country style, backwoods country living.

An excellent reason to visit!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Brother, I’m not sure your being serious or joking. On the other hand, yes I believe in moderation. I’m not going there (planed to) to get spiritual insight into salvation, or growing closer to His Spirit. I’m going for the country style, backwoods country living.

I’m not kidding.

One day you might joke on a bone.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

I had to get out of Southern Texas, the mindset of the Bible Belt is something else. No offense to anyone, its just different that’s all I’m going to say.

You're going to... Sannnnn Frannnnn-ciscooooo....?

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Esaias

You're going to... Sannnnn Frannnnn-ciscooooo....?