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[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Joelel

Maybe we should talk about how in the scripture God gets angry,then turns around and commands us not to.That would be like me telling my kids not to do something and then do it myself.It's ok for the father but not the children ?

He never told us to not be angry. Jesus was angry! He upset the moneychangers' tables. He told us to BE ANGRY but not to sin. "The zeal of the house of the Lord hath eaten me up," is saying he was ANGRY!

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by mfblume

He never told us to not be angry. Jesus was angry! He upset the moneychangers' tables. He told us to BE ANGRY but not to sin. "The zeal of the house of the Lord hath eaten me up," is saying he was ANGRY!

I don't read where Jesus was angry when turning over tables.A person can show authority without being angry.There is depth in anger anyways.We can not be angry to where we sin or bring forth wrath as the scripture says God does in killing people in his anger.

My creator and father don't get angry and kill people as the scripture of the God of the bible says he does.

Tit.1
[7] For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre

He is telling them here,If you anger sin not or don't wrath.

Eph.4
[26] Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

Let ALL anger be put away from among us,why ? Because anger usually brings forth sin or wrath.


Eph.4
[31] Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:


Col.3
[8] But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
[21] Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.

[mfblume]

"Not soon angry" is not saying be not angry, but rather don't be easily angered. And "be angry and sin not," is saying anger is fine as long as it is in control.

My creator and father don't get angry and kill people as the scripture of the God of the bible says he does.

I am concerned about the God of the Bible, and not necessarily any particular person's god.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by mfblume

"Not soon angry" is not saying be not angry, but rather don't be easily angered. And "be angry and sin not," is saying anger is fine as long as it is in control.



I am concerned about the God of the Bible, and not necessarily any particular person's god.

My Father Jehovah and his Son Yehowshuwa does not get angry and kill people.The powers of darkness (satan) kills people.

My father don't do this.Zeph.3
[8] Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.


Deuteronomy 6:15
(for the LORD your God is a jealous God among you), lest the anger of the LORD your God be aroused against you and destroy you from the face of the earth.

[mfblume]

Again, I am concerned about the God of the Bible, not anyone else's god.

I have proved his word true and never saw anything the Bible say ever be wrong in practical life.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Again, I am concerned about the God of the Bible, not anyone else's god.

I have proved his word true and never saw anything the Bible say ever be wrong in practical life.

Fact is,if God of the bible gets angry and kills he sins.Eph.4
[26] Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

[Amos]

This farce needs to be put to a swift merciful, and permanent end by some kind admin.

[Joelel]

The writters can't even agree on how many sons Abraham had.


Hebrews 11:17
By faith Abraham when he was tried, offered up Isaac, ... his only begotten son.

Genesis 22:2
Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, ... and offer him there for a burnt offering.


Genesis 16:15
And Hagar bare Abraham a son: and Abram called his son's name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael.

Genesis 21:2-3
For Sarah conceived, and bare Abraham a son is his old age .... And Abraham called him Isaac.

Genesis 25:1-2
Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah.

Galatians 4:22
Abraham had two sons; the one by a bond-woman, and the other by a free woman

[Joelel]

How old was Abraham when he left Haran?

75 years old
Genesis 12:4
Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.

At least 135 years old

Acts 7:2-4
Our father Abraham ... dwelt in Haran: and from thence, when his father was dead, he removed himself into this land.

Genesis 11:26
And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram.... .

Genesis 11:32
And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years; and Terah died in Haran.


Acts 7:4 says that Abram didn't leave Haran until after his father died. Gen.11:26 says that Abram's father was 70 years old when Abram was born, and Abram's father lived to be 205 (11:32). Clearly, then, Abram was at least 135 when he left Haran. Yet Gen.12:4 says he left Haran when he was only 75.

[Joelel]

Was Lot Abraham's brother or nephew?

Lot was Abraham's brother.

Gen.14:14
"And when Abram heard that his brother [Lot] was taken captive ...."

Gen.14:16
"And also brought again his brother Lot ...."

Lot was Abraham's nephew.

Gen.11:27
"Now these are the generations of Terah: Terah begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran begat Lot."

Gen.12:5
"And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother's son...."
Gen.14:12
"And they took Lot, Abram's brother's son, who dwelt in Sodom, and his goods, and departed."