Kissing a girl!

[Aquila]

Great points Rhoni. This is quite a subject.

You know Rhoni, I’m surprised there isn’t a separate category for topics relating to love, marriage, intimacy, dating, and relationships. I think we really neglect these things to our detriment sometimes. People have sincere questions, issues, and need for encouragement. It’s sad these topics have to float around in the General posts of the Fellowship Hall.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Now this is a topic worth discussing, if we can get MP's mind out of the gutter.

Blessings, Rhoni

You're right, Rhoni.

Silly me for taking this thread about teaching men how to walk into bars, clubs and other public places and, as you say "pick up chicks", and turning it into anything other than the wholesome family discussion it needs to be!

And, once again, I've made a huge faux pas in assuming that the next step after the kiss meant anything other than the cherishing, and nurturing between a married couple

How naive can I be??????

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Aquila

LOL So true. But this is an Apostolic forum. We'll stop at the kiss.

Seems that Aquila's thoughts were right along the same!

[Aquila]

We're all grown-ups. And no one's saying that things should go further outside of the limits we all know. But it all does often start with attraction, a kiss, deepening attraction, dating, time spent together, serious talking, engagement, and then marriage.

Why do we fear love? Why do we see something so beautiful as something dirty? Let's face it...a lot does happen between that first kiss. People just don't meet, email, decide to get married, and then develop attraction and interest.

There is nothing wrong with interest, attraction, and love.

And as far as "bars" bothering people....bro...our youth group goes to Applebee's nearly every weekend. Guess what....they have a bar. They even have stools and tables in the bar area where we've all eaten. C'mon folks...

[Aquila]

Something in my gut tells me that David’s Mighty Men didn’t sit at home playing checkers, eating cookies and milk on the weekends.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

You're right, Rhoni.

Silly me for taking this thread about teaching men how to walk into bars, clubs and other public places and, as you say "pick up chicks", and turning it into anything other than the wholesome family discussion it needs to be!

And, once again, I've made a huge faux pas in assuming that the next step after the kiss meant anything other than the cherishing, and nurturing between a married couple

How naive can I be??????

I don't know MP, how naive are you?

Blessings, Rhoni

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Aquila

We're all grown-ups. And no one's saying that things should go further outside of the limits we all know. But it all does often start with attraction, a kiss, deepening attraction, dating, time spent together, serious talking, engagement, and then marriage.

Why do we fear love? Why do we see something so beautiful as something dirty? Let's face it...a lot does happen between that first kiss. People just don't meet, email, decide to get married, and then develop attraction and interest.

There is nothing wrong with interest, attraction, and love.

And as far as "bars" bothering people....bro...our youth group goes to Applebee's nearly every weekend. Guess what....they have a bar. They even have stools and tables in the bar area where we've all eaten. C'mon folks...

I won't belabor this point, because apparently, my mind is in the gutter, but I'm curious - is this a lesson you teach to your youth?

How to walk into Applebee's and kiss a girl that they just met?

Or, as Rhoni has already mentioned is a bit over the top - pick up chicks?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I won't belabor this point, because apparently, my mind is in the gutter, but I'm curious - is this a lesson you teach to your youth?

How to walk into Applebee's and kiss a girl that they just met?

Or, as Rhoni has already mentioned is a bit over the top - pick up chicks?

Bro, I fully understand your concern. I guess it started out as playful discussion between grown ups about being able to get a kiss.

But then we got into discussing the value of confidence, knowing, and understanding women.

Do I want my son to be confident enough in himself to feel he can pursue a lady he likes? Sure. I did, I fell in love and I married her. Do I want my son to know how to get a kiss? Personally, I think that’s harmless. It’s just a kiss. I could ban him all day long from trying to kiss a girl and guess what….he’ll still kiss a girl. (And if it’s a girl, half my worries are relieved!) I’d rather my son have the pick of the litter than be sitting in the shadows feeling insecure or rejected.

You see it as “picking up chicks”. I see it more like knowing how to break the ice and get to know someone. Can it be abused? Yes. But here’s where you have to do your best to teach them the limits. Then, as they get older, you just have to trust them. I’d certainly rather my son learn how to break the ice with girls and how to properly dazzle and date a girl from me than some magazine or his buddies during locker room talk.

Do I think it should be a “youth group” lesson? No. But I think it’s one of those “father and son” topics to discuss over fishing tackle or a campfire; where men trod with openness and women are not permitted (I mean no disrespect ladies).

[Aquila]

Oh what? Did I kill the discussion? lol

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Oh what? Did I kill the discussion? lol

Maybe everyone headed to the bar to try it out.