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Old 08-06-2008, 11:42 PM
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Re: Swinging Church!

Well, unfortunately, I am related to some of them. Fortunately, I don't attend church with them. They are trins and I am oneness. (Although, I really believe both sides believe in one God, we just all use different ways to describe it. I've never met a trin who tried to claim the trinity was three Gods. They all say 3-in-1. But that's a theology debate and unrelated to this thread's topic.)
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:07 AM
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Everyone just calm down. What happens in several congregations doesn't represent an entire organization. I'm UPCI and I know of some instances of couples experimenting with this sort of thing. And I don't find that it reflects on the organization. I believe it illustrates that some couples had a lapse in judgment and tried to fulfill unmet needs in improper ways. And I know some pastors might also be prone to falling into this. They are human beings too.
Human beings? A Pastor must be BLAMELESS. Any of them that are involved in fornication they are to be set down.

I do not doubt this is happening. I also have seen the utter corruption of some in ministry. What I cannot abide is that someone knows this is going on in (I suppose) the Church they attend! That is about as corrupt as anything.

The Pastor does not know? If not I would be telling him. If he did not stop it NOW I would certainly be gone and warning others about it.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:27 AM
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Human beings? A Pastor must be BLAMELESS. Any of them that are involved in fornication they are to be set down.
Amen.

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I do not doubt this is happening. I also have seen the utter corruption of some in ministry. What I cannot abide is that someone knows this is going on in (I suppose) the Church they attend! That is about as corrupt as anything.

The Pastor does not know? If not I would be telling him. If he did not stop it NOW I would certainly be gone and warning others about it.
Perfectly understandable.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:28 AM
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If polygamy and polyamory are okay, then why not swinging????
Isn't swinging a form of polyamory?
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:30 AM
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I know this pastor and he would NOT condone this IF he knew it was going on!
Why are the people that know about it telling everyone else BUT the pastor?
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:32 AM
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I didn't read all the thread but we had a "Oneness church" up near Seattle Wa that had these practices.

After it disbanded, quite a few of the members went to Joe Parkers church in Federal Way, Wa. He was at one time UPC. He still holds to the doctrine but has no standards to speak of. As for his personality/ministry he is one of the nicest guys you will ever meet.

The church in question (not Joe Parkers) was called Community Chapel and was in South Seattle, WA,
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:35 AM
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[quote=Light;558649]Good Lord you are so naive.

There was a upc preacher who was taken before his district board for sexual activity.The local district refused to take his license. Members of the church went to the general conference. Remember the motor home at general conference at the Salt Palace with all the sings on it.
The signs were designed to get the attention of the general board which had previously refused to hear the complaint of a man whose pastor was a sex addict. This person finally saw the Bord and gave them the notarized letters from 11 women and a tape of this preachers conversation with women in his church that was recorded in the church.

The general board refused to take this mans license.
Just amazing. If this was Thad he would be roasted alive. And people are just believing these stories?
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Here is the church history I was referring to in my previous post.

When you have no Bible and all Spirit this is what happens.
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Well...he permitted some things I was surprised about. lol
It's not that he permitted. It's that it is none of his business
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You'd be surprised. I don't think it's "accepted" by any denomination but I think it's a more common than most think.
Or YOU'D be surprised that it does not happen as much as you were expecting
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