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07-08-2008, 08:08 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
Yeah, I know Baron. But there is a lot of joking and not so joking references to fat preachers here. The sad part of generalizations made in ignorance just so someone can get a little poke at preachers. There are a lot of people struggling with the problem and read here and not be able to separate it from themselves. Most eating disorders are from an emotional place. I was anorexic and thankfully God healed me before it killed me.
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So, a person struggling with an eating disorder is OK
but someone struggling with alcohol, tobacco, gambling, or sex addictions is not OK.
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07-08-2008, 08:22 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
I do hope there will be a few smokers in heaven.
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07-08-2008, 08:33 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by AbundantGrace
Put more plainly, is it possible for a person who smokes/uses tobacco products to truly be a Christian? Is it possible for that person to be saved while still smoking/chewing/dipping? Why or why not?
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I believe that smoking is a sin with consequences against the health of the individual.
As far as destroying the temple goes...eating fast food for lunch every day is just as bad, if not worse, than having a smoke.
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07-08-2008, 10:22 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
If anyone has any doubts where this forum is heading we have 13 pages discussing if smoking is a sin? Good grief!!!!!
Anyone who smokes is NOT saved or folks who think smokers are saved are saved are not saved.
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07-08-2008, 10:44 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
If anyone has any doubts where this forum is heading we have 13 pages discussing if smoking is a sin? Good grief!!!!!
Anyone who smokes is NOT saved or folks who think smokers are saved are saved are not saved.
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Interestingly enough, your making a proclamation of total certainty on eternal salvation while conveniently side stepping whether every other defilement of the human body mentioned in this thread will be met with such sure judgment.
Bro. Epley how about enlightening us on gluttony, excessive worrying, eating disorders and all other defilements.
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07-08-2008, 10:47 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by MikeinAR
Interestingly enough, your making a proclamation of total certainty on eternal salvation while conveniently side stepping whether every other defilement of the human body mentioned in this thread will be met with such sure judgment.
Bro. Epley how about enlightening us on gluttony, excessive worrying, eating disorders and all other defilements.
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That is NOT the subject smoking is the subject. No one is defending gluttony.
This is like saying how you say adultery is wrong when some folks are child molesters. One wrong does not make another wrong less than wrong.
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07-08-2008, 10:51 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
I've read that eating a Big Mac is the same as smoking three cigarettes.
If You can't smoke them,
Can You eat them?
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07-08-2008, 10:55 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
[QUOTE=Steve Epley;522436]That is NOT the subject smoking is the subject. No one is defending gluttony.
This is like saying how you say adultery is wrong when some folks are child molesters. One wrong does not make another wrong less than wrong.[/QUOTE]
Certainly so. Obviously, the sin of smoking is defilement of the body as mentioned in scripture and thus logic would argue that every defilement would be judged as severely as you have stated cigarette smoking will be. One wrong doesn't make another one less wrong.
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07-08-2008, 10:59 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
[QUOTE=MikeinAR;522440]
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
That is NOT the subject smoking is the subject. No one is defending gluttony.
This is like saying how you say adultery is wrong when some folks are child molesters. One wrong does not make another wrong less than wrong.[/QUOTE]
Certainly so. Obviously, the sin of smoking is defilement of the body as mentioned in scripture and thus logic would argue that every defilement would be judged as severely as you have stated cigarette smoking will be. One wrong doesn't make another one less wrong.
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Smoking is a nasty filthy habit that is sinful if you smoked 1 cigarrette a year.
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07-08-2008, 11:28 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by Nina
I've read that eating a Big Mac is the same as smoking three cigarettes.
If You can't smoke them,
Can You eat them?
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