Forum is Ex-Pentecostal?? - Page 13

StMark · #**121** 05-31-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I will readily admit that I have not been "substance and issues oriented" over the past few months. I found my attempts at such an exercise in futility because it would always devolve into a stupid one-step vs three-step argument by the agenda hijackers.

You are right, I hate the term "open-minded" and all it implies.

But the greatest mistake you, MOW, Daniel and other Ex's make is to [B][B]think that I am party to some sort of plantation mentality. Friend, I have suffered for my disagreements with the status quo in a real and lasting way. MY disagreements with "the man" costs me something.

And...for the record, I have disagreed much more vociferously with Renfro and White than I ever have with Daniel Alicea.

I will give Daniel this much. We may rip each other to shreds on this forum. We may disagree in a nuclear way. But he has never once tried to hurt me in real life.

I wish I could say that about some of the others you mentioned.

I understand

Steve Epley · #**122** 05-31-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I am not Timlan, but let me say this.

All information is powerful.

AFF is the greatest voice available to folks like Daniel, MOW and TIm.

I honestly think it affects only those who are somewhat looking for an alternate view and way of living. Thus their 'arguments' though they are very old to us who have battled these errors for years for the naive they think revelation and liberty has come. I have fought these same arguments ever since I have been in the ministry and continue to fight them today.

Nahum · #**123** 05-31-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by timlan2057

Well, the latter is none of my business, though of course you prove my point.

I don't say that in a triumphant way ... just that there we go that you are an example as a victim of the mentality that if we can't meet their arguments with substance we'll strike back and try to "hurt" them.

But ... just because you can fit into a "plantation" analogy as a slave ...

... DOESN'T mean that in another sense and with other posters you can't ALSO fit into the analogy as the overseer. ; )

Tim, I like you, but your last statement is pretty whacked.

I am not an admin. I am not an owner.

I do care about this stupid forum.

I do think some things allowed here are way off base.

Are you saying I should not express that opinion?

I have never hurt one person on this forum. Thought about calling a DS once, but didn't cause I didn't want to be that kind of person.

Comparing me to a slave owner is highly offensive.

mizpeh · #**124** 05-31-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by timlan2057

Ah, the old "if you can't name specific people etc. then it ain't true" defense.

Well ... actually Mizpeh, yes I have talked with quite a few. But I wasn't basing what I said on that.

And yes ... I know the internet is a bit bigger than AFF though you'd be surprised who lurks here.

Tell you what ... let's give it a few years and let's see who's right ... okay?

I didn't mean to imply that you were wrong in your assessment of the power of the internet to sway minds. I would like to see proof, that's all. I thought maybe you had some hard facts to substantiate your claims.

It's not about I'm right and you're wrong. I was asking a question, I was not saying "Timlan is wrong"! It's funny you think I was trying to use some type of defense! I'm not that smart, just curious. LOL

SDG · #**125** 05-31-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

I would be voting a big yes. I believe he almost single handedly destroyed the balance AFF had between ultra cons, cons, mods, and libs.

I reallly wish this subject had not come up. However my views are nothing new. I have told Dan this to his face.

If he had been half as nice and tactful on the forum as he is in real life I think all would have been a lot better.

*NOTE* - This is my pesonal opinion. I am speaking as a poster not as admin.

CC1 you have expressed this to me ... one-on-one. I respect your opinion and you greatly.

All I can do, however, is laugh.

mizpeh · #**126** 05-31-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Tim, I like you, but your last statement is pretty whacked.

I am not an admin. I am not an owner.

I do care about this stupid forum.

I do think some things allowed here are way off base.

Are you saying I should not express that opinion?

I have never hurt one person on this forum. Thought about calling a DS once, but didn't cause I didn't want to be that kind of person.

Comparing me to a slave owner is highly offensive.

How's your hand, PP?

SDG · #**127** 05-31-2008, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Dan, you are the most divisive poster in Faithchild/AFF history.

You claim it is so-called "three stepper Water & Spirit" adherants who are divisive but it is folks like you, Timlan, MOW and others who lead the charge to divide.

Your group does not want unification and toleration. You want to dominate. You want to change what it means to be Oneness Pentecostal. Surely you do not deny this? THIS IS YOUR AGENDA.

AFF is the best platform in the world for your group and you well know it. As a matter of fact, AFF is the only valid platform for your ideals.

Further, you are nothing close to PCI. You Sir, are an imposter.

You pose, preen and distract with patently Pentecostal catch-phrases while you peddle a new-fangled toleration of capitulation to Ecumenicalism to anyone foolish enough to give an ear.

Daniel, why is it you never, ever focus on anything but how repugnant three-step doctrine is? You never focus on the similarities between the old PCi and the PAJCers. You always point out differences.

Now tell me bubba, who is divisive?

Absolutely vintage.