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Old 05-01-2008, 10:30 AM
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They are already judged by the word of God and what they believe and teach is a lie according to the bible.
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Old 05-01-2008, 10:43 AM
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Is Jesus his own father?
[John 8:24] I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
[John 8:25] Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
[John 8:26] I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
[John 8:27] They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.[John 8:28] Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

John 14:8] Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
[John 14:9] Jesus saith unto him, have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, the everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Jesus is the father, Jesus is the son, Jesus is the Holy Ghost and all these three are one.
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Old 05-01-2008, 10:45 AM
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[John 8:24] I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
[John 8:25] Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
[John 8:26] I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
[John 8:27] They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.[John 8:28] Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

John 14:8] Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
[John 14:9] Jesus saith unto him, have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, the everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Jesus is the father, Jesus is the son, Jesus is the Holy Ghost and all these three are one.
If Jesus is not God the Father incarnate then He is NOT God. ONLY the Father is God.
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Old 05-01-2008, 10:49 AM
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Jesus is the father, Jesus is the son, Jesus is the Holy Ghost and all these three are one.
OK, so Jesus and the Father are one. In the sense that they are the very same person. Jesus is the Father. Not "one" in the same sense that you and other believers are "one" (unified). So, what did Jesus mean when He prayed "that they may be one, as we are"?
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:01 AM
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OK, so Jesus and the Father are one. In the sense that they are the very same person. Jesus is the Father. Not "one" in the same sense that you and other believers are "one" (unified). So, what did Jesus mean when He prayed "that they may be one, as we are"?
The Father and Son are ONE in more than ONE way. The Father was incarnate IN the Son.
However as Son He had a human will-and the will-purpose-goal of the Son in line with the Eternal purpose and He prayed for the church to be ONE in that sense.
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:03 AM
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The Father and Son are ONE in more than ONE way. The Father was incarnate IN the Son.
However as Son He had a human will-and the will-purpose-goal of the Son in line with the Eternal purpose and He prayed for the church to be ONE in that sense.
Did he have a human spirit?
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:05 AM
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Did he have a human spirit?
He most certainly had a human-body-soul-spirit for He was human you can't be human without what makes a human.
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:13 AM
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You people that say trinnies believe in one God

WHY DONT YOU answer the question???????

Do trinnies believe that Jesus is the father?

Of course the reason you don't answer is because you know they don't.
Jesus is not the father. Jesus is the father manifest in flesh. Jesus and the father are one. God was in Crhist reconcilng the world to himself. Jesus and the father are different. They are spirit and flesh but that are not two persons. This is my bloved son in whom I am pleased.
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:15 AM
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Speaking of unity, you know how God always answers prayer, but sometimes His answer is "no"? What about when Jesus prayed to His Father, "...that they may be one, as we are"? Was that prayer answered with a "no"?
YES the prayer was answered read Acts 2.
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