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WPF News Discussion of the WWPF meetings in Tulsa and related sidetracks. |
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01-10-2008, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
We were inclined to believe what we were hearing then.
I am of the opinion that this has evolved into something beyond what the original intent was, at least for most of the men.
Maybe I am just gullible, but I don't lie.
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Coonskinner, I don't think you're a liar.
I'll agree that a lot of people said that all it was going to be is a loose fellowship of like minded men...
however the organizers had other intentions. I already stated it once and so has PP, there is NO way that they could've pulled off everything they have if this was some last minute decision.
Are they bad men? no....but I don't think anyone that had knowledge of what was really going on had to minimize it and pretend (see that would is nicer that deceit) like this was just a little meeting.
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01-10-2008, 10:27 PM
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It's not easy being me.
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
I am not UC by any long shot but if these good men want their own organization I support their right to do so.
If God is in this ,we can't fight agains't but if God is not in this then it won't stand anyways
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As far as that goes, I don't think God even gives a hoot what organization anybody is in.
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01-10-2008, 10:29 PM
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Yes some independents will be saved,and resurrected out.
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01-10-2008, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by chseeads
As far as that goes, I don't think God even gives a hoot what organization anybody is in.
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I'll amen that! But some of these guys are so mad and bitter about the ones pulling out. But they won't admit, not even to themselves.
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01-10-2008, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rev
I'll amen that! But some of these guys are so mad and bitter about the ones pulling out. But they won't admit, not even to themselves.
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lol
since you stated earlier that I am bitter, I'm going to assume you're including me in your most recent post
Please explain to me why I would be bitter? why would I be mad?
I think you're misreading my posts. I'm not bitter that they're leaving, but I'm happily pointing out that the WPF is more than the fellowship meeting it's defenders said it was going to be.
Tell you what let's ask a voice of reason if I'm bitter: Pastor Poster, do you think I'm bitter? Help us out here, Rev thinks I'm bitter and angry. I believe you to be a voice of reason. Judge the matter and get back to us. But hurry! I might be getting angrier and not even know it!
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01-10-2008, 10:39 PM
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I think that the people on this forum that have stated the Tulsa group was just going to be a loose fellowship only repeated what they were told.
I believe that the founders knew what was the real intent the entire time but were smart enough to not let it out.
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01-10-2008, 10:50 PM
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Forget-it
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Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor
lol
since you stated earlier that I am bitter, I'm going to assume you're including me in your most recent post
Please explain to me why I would be bitter? why would I be mad?
I think you're misreading my posts. I'm not bitter that they're leaving, but I'm happily pointing out that the WPF is more than the fellowship meeting it's defenders said it was going to be.
Tell you what let's ask a voice of reason if I'm bitter: Pastor Poster, do you think I'm bitter? Help us out here, Rev thinks I'm bitter and angry. I believe you to be a voice of reason. Judge the matter and get back to us. But hurry! I might be getting angrier and not even know it!
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Why we would be bitter, I don't know. Angry? Sure. If we are about to jump off a cliff as some claim, I am sure enough upset that brethren would jump ship and not try to keep us balanced.
Angry that a "I am taking my bat and ball and going home" spirit has divided the camp? Blame it on TV all ya want, it is about control. That is proven now, though I doubted it at first because of some of the good men on the lists.
Bitter, no. Angry...maybe too strong a word. Upset...very to the point.
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01-10-2008, 10:54 PM
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I have only had time to read to page four of the thread but I think that $720.00 annual membership fee will help those on the fence about whether to join or not to not.
A lot of conservatives unhappy with the UPC would probably just go independent rather than fork out almost a thousand dollars a year to say they belong to another org. JMHO (I know Coonskinner has to be thinking of how much ammo and hunting gear $720 will buy!)
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01-10-2008, 10:59 PM
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iv. I will refrain from publicly speaking or writing against any other apostolic/Pentecostal organization. However, I will take the liberty to oversee the local church which I pastor in accordance with God’s word and as God directs, without interference from anyone.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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01-10-2008, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CC1
I have only had time to read to page four of the thread but I think that $720.00 annual membership fee will help those on the fence about whether to join or not to not.
A lot of conservatives unhappy with the UPC would probably just go independent rather than fork out almost a thousand dollars a year to say they belong to another org. JMHO (I know Coonskinner has to be thinking of how much ammo and hunting gear $720 will buy!)
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Is this more or less than UPC fees?
Coon will love it, because it gives him reason to hunt more coons and sell their hides.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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