OP, YOU may know the whole story in Starks, but when you are talking about Southwest Louisiana, there really isnt any "knowing the whole story".
There is no place on earth like the land of my birth. Some of the greatest preachers in pentecost come from the Imperial Calcasieu Parish area. That would be Camron, Calcasieu, Beauregard, Jefferson Davis and Allen Parishes....
But it is also home to some of the worst blood fueds in Pentecost too!
Every little town has some odd story. everyone seems to think they are right.
That five parish area was at one time Imperial Calcasieu Parish.
Now Jeff Davis Parish (Lake Arthur, Jennings, etc.) is in present day Section 5. W. C. Jackson was the longtime presbyter there.
Now you won't find many great preachers or leaders originating from there since that is the entrance to hard-core Cajun country - going eastward into Lafayette and beyond.
Allen Parish?
Yes ... Kinder and Oakdale - an extension of Beauregard Parish with quite a few pentecostal churches.
Earl Long knew this area well - he knew all of Louisiana well.
But he was a master campaigner who knew to break out the French-speaking stump speakers in Elton, but it was a no-no to do that in the redneck country around Kinder in Allen Parish, just 15-20 miles up the road.
OP, YOU may know the whole story in Starks, but when you are talking about Southwest Louisiana, there really isnt any "knowing the whole story".
There is no place on earth like the land of my birth. Some of the greatest preachers in pentecost come from the Imperial Calcasieu Parish area. That would be Camron, Calcasieu, Beauregard, Jefferson Davis and Allen Parishes....
But it is also home to some of the worst blood fueds in Pentecost too!
Every little town has some odd story. everyone seems to think they are right.
Ferd
I am familar with some of the "blood fueds" of Calcasieu parish and Starks in particular, but TWO churches in Starks has nothing to do with "blood fueds", but it was a DOCTRINAL/HOLINESS issue.
Why don't you PM Elder Epley and let him tell you the whole story.
That five parish area was at one time Imperial Calcasieu Parish.
Now Jeff Davis Parish (Lake Arthur, Jennings, etc.) is in present day Section 5. W. C. Jackson was the longtime presbyter there.
Now you won't find many great preachers or leaders originating from there since that is the entrance to hard-core Cajun country - going eastward into Lafayette and beyond.
Allen Parish?
Yes ... Kinder and Oakdale - an extension of Beauregard Parish with quite a few pentecostal churches.
Earl Long knew this area well - he knew all of Louisiana well.
But he was a master campaigner who knew to break out the French-speaking stump speakers in Elton, but it was a no-no to do that in the redneck country around Kinder in Allen Parish, just 15-20 miles up the road.
Tim, my grandfather had a first cousin from the area between Dry Creek and Reeves. Earl Long made him the oyster inspector for the state of Louisiana. I do not believe my cousin ever actully saw the gulf of mexico!
He did however have some really good Hog hunting dogs. Earl made many trips to that area to hunt with him!
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I am familar with some of the "blood fueds" of Calcasieu parish and Starks in particular, but TWO churches in Starks has nothing to do with "blood fueds", but it was a DOCTRINAL/HOLINESS issue.
Why don't you PM Elder Epley and let him tell you the whole story.
OP, there is no need at all to get into the particulars related to starks. I have no ax to grind and take you at your word.
my point here is, that we are talking about an area that has a long history. some battles were all about doctrine and right and wrong. others were about personalities.
everyone thought they were right and did all in the Name of God.
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Tim, my grandfather had a first cousin from the area between Dry Creek and Reeves. Earl Long made him the oyster inspector for the state of Louisiana. I do not believe my cousin ever actully saw the gulf of mexico!
He did however have some really good Hog hunting dogs. Earl made many trips to that area to hunt with him!
Now that is the Louisiana that I know. I had an uncle that "worked" for some division of the La. State government during one of Edwin Edwards reelection campagin for Governor back in the 70's. I think it was the "Weights and Measures" department. He had a brand new state issued pickup complete with the seal of La. on the door.
In actuality his job was to travel the state in that truck working on Edwards campgain. Typical.
Louisiana is the most corrup state in the union I believe. Corruption is pevasive in the state government and most local governments. A way of life.
That is one reason I have no pity for the most part regarding Katrina. That state wasted hundreds of millions of all of our federal tax dollars that were supposed to be used on the levvys.
Now that is the Louisiana that I know. I had an uncle that "worked" for some division of the La. State government during one of Edwin Edwards reelection campagin for Governor back in the 70's. I think it was the "Weights and Measures" department. He had a brand new state issued pickup complete with the seal of La. on the door.
In actuality his job was to travel the state in that truck working on Edwards campgain. Typical.
Louisiana is the most corrup state in the union I believe. Corruption is pevasive in the state government and most local governments. A way of life.
That is one reason I have no pity for the most part regarding Katrina. That state wasted hundreds of millions of all of our federal tax dollars that were supposed to be used on the levvys.
The good news is, Bobby Jindal is a reformer who will clean things up.
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Brother Phillips (pastor in shady grove and a district presbyter in Louisiana) has pulled his church out of the org. He is very conservitive and I suspect this is an indication he is OUT.
2. Wayne Cardwell from DeQuincy has been told by his church that he can leave the UPCI but the CHURCH ISNT....
AND .....
3. ANOTHER CHURCH has told their Pastor that he can leave but THE CHURCH IS STAYING! And that man is CRAWFORD COON!
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Anyone see a fundamental problem with the two bolded statements above?
Minister_WD, I'm certainly not saying you're not telling the truth, in fact, I believe you. I'm just a bit concerned when I hear that a church is telling their pastor what he CAN or CANNOT do.
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Anyone see a fundamental problem with the two bolded statements above?
Minister_WD, I'm certainly not saying you're not telling the truth, in fact, I believe you. I'm just a bit concerned when I hear that a church is telling their pastor what he CAN or CANNOT do.
MP, having been very close to a situation where a pastor was attempting to pull out of the UPCI moving in the opposite direction (very liberal), I can tell you that a church that has a long history with an organization, has every right to look the pastor in the eye and tell him he can go but the church wont.
Both of these churches have been in the UPCI longer than the current pastor has been alive if i am not mistaken.
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