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Old 08-24-2014, 06:56 PM
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Why not talk about the things that are factual?
That anyone can actually see, feel and touch, why should those parts be excluded?

Why exclude talk about physical items that the Bible speaks about.
Tents, altars, knives, sheep, goats

Why exclude talk about ancient customs that the Bible speaks about.
Killing a husband for his wife, killing animals for sacrifice, buying burial fields by an elaborated commercial transaction.

Why exclude talk about actual historical events that the Bible speaks about.
The invasions of Egypt, the Persian empire, The Roman empire.

You want to exclude talk about those things, because you know full well that they can actually be verified by anyone in the world and you want to avoid that. (anyone with enough money can travel throughout the middle east and confirm all the tangible things that the Bible speaks about)

But you see if a book is reliable in material and historical things that can be verified, then it is more obvious that it might be true in those things which are harder to verify.

Are there really zillions of supernatural claims in the Bible? I think you are avoiding the natural claims of the Bible for they make it more likely that the supernatural claims of the Bible are actually true.
Because I have not disputed the historical events. That's why. We are in agreement that many events and people described in the Bible are accurate. I don't know anyone who does dispute that.

Now. The supernatural claims. Like anything to do with an afterlife. Like miracles. Like angels and demons. Let's talk about those.

And don't forget about Abe the vampire hunter. You do understand my point, there, don't you?
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Old 08-24-2014, 09:02 PM
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Because I have not disputed the historical events. That's why. We are in agreement that many events and people described in the Bible are accurate. I don't know anyone who does dispute that.

Now. The supernatural claims. Like anything to do with an afterlife. Like miracles. Like angels and demons. Let's talk about those.

And don't forget about Abe the vampire hunter. You do understand my point, there, don't you?
If the Bible is accurate concerning natural historical events and items then what makes you think it is inaccurate regarding supernatural events?

If it is reliable telling us earthly things, why should it not be also reliable telling us of heavenly things?
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Old 08-24-2014, 11:10 PM
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If the Bible is accurate concerning natural historical events and items then what makes you think it is inaccurate regarding supernatural events?

If it is reliable telling us earthly things, why should it not be also reliable telling us of heavenly things?
Lincoln. Vampires. Get it?

Can you address my undeniably true () statement about supernatural claims?
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Old 08-25-2014, 10:27 AM
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Lincoln. Vampires. Get it?

Can you address my undeniably true () statement about supernatural claims?
OK let us focus on the supernatural events in the Bible.

The Bible does not speaks of Vampires, werewolves or zombies, so let us skip those and let us talk about Angels, and then we shall go on to other supernatural things.

If there is a race of humans, why should there not be a race of Angels and other beings?

I am quite sure that God is wise enough to create millions of different races if he wanted to.
I would not be surprised if our current universe was populated by millions of different races.
what have you against Angels?
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Old 08-25-2014, 11:15 AM
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OK let us focus on the supernatural events in the Bible.

The Bible does not speaks of Vampires, werewolves or zombies, so let us skip those and let us talk about Angels, and then we shall go on to other supernatural things.

If there is a race of humans, why should there not be a race of Angels and other beings?

I am quite sure that God is wise enough to create millions of different races if he wanted to.
I would not be surprised if our current universe was populated by millions of different races.
what have you against Angels?
Nothing against them. They just don't exist, IMO.

But it would not surprise me, either, if there were millions of intelligent species spread around the universe. Some claim to have seen visitors from other planets, and it's possible (though I think unlikely) that they are right: if so, maybe some of those appearances centuries ago inspired some angel and demon stories.

But beings created by God specifically to do his bidding, with the ability to be invisible or to take human form, going between here and heaven, etc.? Unlikely.

And now, how about my statement? What makes you think it's reasonable to believe in angels, but not in leprechauns?
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Old 08-25-2014, 11:19 AM
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By the way, the Quran has references to historical events and real people, as well. So I guess you must believe its spiritual claims. Same for the Book of Mormon. True, there are many apparent problems with it, but apologists can explain them all. Hmm. Where have heard that before?
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Old 08-25-2014, 11:32 AM
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Nothing against them. They just don't exist, IMO.

But it would not surprise me, either, if there were millions of intelligent species spread around the universe. Some claim to have seen visitors from other planets, and it's possible (though I think unlikely) that they are right: if so, maybe some of those appearances centuries ago inspired some angel and demon stories.

But beings created by God specifically to do his bidding, with the ability to be invisible or to take human form, going between here and heaven, etc.? Unlikely.

And now, how about my statement? What makes you think it's reasonable to believe in angels, but not in leprechauns?
Leprechauns are not mentioned in the Bible.
The Bible is a reliable source.

Angels and Demons are the same thing, demons are simply angels which went on rebellion against God.

Chameleons can appear invisible because they are able to adapt to their environment, but they are not the only ones, other animals also blend into their surroundings or use camouflage.

When I was in the Army, some of the better soldiers were so good at using camouflage that they would be right in front of a person and the person would not see them.

Angels do not necessarily have to have wings.
If an angel can look like a person, an angel could be standing right in front of your face and you would not be able to tell the difference. who knows you have may already seen angels, but you just did not know.

An angel would have to have the ability to go from the physical world to the Spiritual world. To our eyes they would appear to disappear, but in reality they are just going from one realm to another.

When a diver goes under the water, you cease to see him, but you know that he is still down there under the water.
When a miner goes under the earth, he seems to disappear, but he is down there under the earth, you may not see him, but he is still down there.
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Old 08-25-2014, 11:38 AM
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Old 08-25-2014, 11:40 AM
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Never mind.
Sorry that my post overtaxed your brain.

I deeply apologize for making you think.
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Old 08-25-2014, 12:24 PM
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Sorry that my post overtaxed your brain.

I deeply apologize for making you think.
Uh, yeah, that was what happened.
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