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Old 09-06-2007, 04:10 PM
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I haven't read the entire thread, so this may have been mentioned...

But has anyone pondered the ethics of him putting this out there on his EC page where lots of impressionable young teenagers can see it and possibly be motivated to have a dim view of their dowdy old pastor who may not agree with MM?

I admire his passion for the lost, but this is an issue being decided at an organizational level by licensed ministers.

Could he be attempting to rally young people to put pressure on thier pastors?
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:17 PM
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I haven't read the entire thread, so this may have been mentioned...

But has anyone pondered the ethics of him putting this out there on his EC page where lots of impressionable young teenagers can see it and possibly be motivated to have a dim view of their dowdy old pastor who may not agree with MM?

I admire his passion for the lost, but this is an issue being decided at an organizational level by licensed ministers.

Could he be attempting to rally young people to put pressure on thier pastors?
Would pressure from young people make you change your vote?

I think the assertion is as ridiculous as the lack of logic in his article.

He has the right to post his thoughts wherever he chooses to. The entire fellowship is doing the same.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:22 PM
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Would pressure from young people make you change your vote?

I think the assertion is as ridiculous as the lack of logic in his article.

He has the right to post his thoughts wherever he chooses to. The entire fellowship is doing the same.

It absolutely would not.

He has the right to do whatever he wants.

But I am not talking about rights; I am speaking of ethics.

I personally don't preach organizational issues to the saints. There is no profit in feeding them that garbage.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:23 PM
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Would pressure from young people make you change your vote?

I think the assertion is as ridiculous as the lack of logic in his article.

He has the right to post his thoughts wherever he chooses to. The entire fellowship is doing the same.
no the voice of the young people might not make you change your vote

but it will cause disharmony between the pastor and said young people

yes he has a right to post his thoughts as anyone does but there are very few pastors who are making this a sink or swim with the church they are over

mm has respect of a lot of young people he should not use that to cause division in a church not saying that was his intent but amos makes a great point
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:24 PM
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It absolutely would not.

He has the right to do whatever he wants.

But I am not talking about rights; I am speaking of ethics.

I personally don't preach organizational issues to the saints. There is no profit in feeding them that garbage.
wow while i wrote my response you dittoed it

way cool
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:25 PM
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It absolutely would not.

He has the right to do whatever he wants.

But I am not talking about rights; I am speaking of ethics.

I personally don't preach organizational issues to the saints. There is no profit in feeding them that garbage.

If these "impressional" ones are reading his site then they are also reading other sites and I would be surprised if they are not aware already.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:25 PM
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It absolutely would not.

He has the right to do whatever he wants.

But I am not talking about rights; I am speaking of ethics.

I personally don't preach organizational issues to the saints. There is no profit in feeding them that garbage.
It is logical to want to reach the largest audience possible when one wishes to communicate a passionate desire for change. I do not fault him for posting it on EC. It was obviously very effective as we are taking the time to analyze his opinion.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:28 PM
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no the voice of the young people might not make you change your vote

but it will cause disharmony between the pastor and said young people

yes he has a right to post his thoughts as anyone does but there are very few pastors who are making this a sink or swim with the church they are over

mm has respect of a lot of young people he should not use that to cause division in a church not saying that was his intent but amos makes a great point
Matt Maddix believes television is a tool for evangelism, Amos does not. Are you telling me that Amos does not teach his young people to abstain from watching television? Would that be unethical? Would that be politicizing this issue?
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:28 PM
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If these "impressional" ones are reading his site then they are also reading other sites and I would be surprised if they are not aware already.
Teenagers aren't supposed to be on here.

The ovewhelming majority of EC membership is kids.

And personally, I would strongly advise any saint that I pastor never to come here.

Too much deception and false doctrine, as well as bitterness and rebellion, gets promoted.

I enjoy reading and posting, but it is not something I would advise anyone who is not very, very strong in their faith to do.
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And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."


--Amos 7:14-15
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:29 PM
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It is logical to want to reach the largest audience possible when one wishes to communicate a passionate desire for change. I do not fault him for posting it on EC. It was obviously very effective as we are taking the time to analyze his opinion.

Whatever...I have a problem with the ethics of posting it in a place frequented almost exclusively by teenagers.
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And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."


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