A Night of Supernatural Events

[mizpeh]

Steadfast, I hope this won't stop you from posting more good reports of the things God is doing in your church.

Originally Posted by Ferd

My God. A woman who has suffered for years over the most uncomprehendable loss is healed and filled with the Holy Ghost and we are debating if the preacher was a snake oil salesman!

I am sick at my stomach.

Yes, that pretty much sums up the way I feel about it. I guess if it was his 'gift of discernment' at work he would be more than a little excited about it.

It wasn't. He ain't.

Thank God for this lady and what God did for her and those hurting with her. We will eventually win her husband - a Baptist Pastor - to truth as well.

But, then again, they wouldn't believe that either.

What a pitiful God... seems He can't do anything without the approval of His almighty Saints.

Yuck.

Originally Posted by philjones

Aw, Ferd, they probably lied about that part too!

At first I thought it was just a little doubt because he hadn't seen anything like this. At this point, yes, I do feel like I'm being called a liar and this precious Evangelist is being called a fraud.

Yes, I'll admit, the perpetual implication that I, my Evangelist or this bereaved lady are somehow guilty of something fraudulent or dishonest is getting old.

I find it offensive at best and the need to even debate it on an APOSTOLIC forum ridiculous at the very least.

An excited revivalist? I'll accept that. A liar? I am not.

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Steadfast, I hope this won't stop you from posting more good reports of the things God is doing in your church.

Discouraged because so called Apostolics don't believe in Apostolic actions? Yes.

Stop rejoicing over what God is doing in MY world before MY eyes for MY Saints?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Ferd

My God. A woman who has suffered for years over the most uncomprehendable loss is healed and filled with the Holy Ghost and we are debating if the preacher was a snake oil salesman!

I am sick at my stomach.

Was it an ultra con who questioned that? Sorry, but those dudes seem to be the sticklers for the miraculous.

(I have not been following the thread, btw, so I do not know who said what against what).

Mizpeh, I am with you on that! I hope that Steadfast in fact does not stop posting the wonderful works of God that are happening. I enjoy reading his posts, they are always inspiring and uplifting.
We go to a church that has been dealt a couple of very heavy blows. We are just starting to get back up and give the devil some full blown punches. We had a woman in our Interactive Bible Study tonight that is the secretary for the local Baptist Chruch. Her daughter has been coming for some time now and is baptized in Jesus' Name and has the Holy Ghost. We are believing God that He will save her whole family. God is working, and continues to amaze and astonish us with His goodness.

Originally Posted by MrsBOOMM

Mizpeh, I am with you on that! I hope that Steadfast in fact does not stop posting the wonderful works of God that are happening. I enjoy reading his posts, they are always inspiring and uplifting.
We go to a church that has been dealt a couple of very heavy blows. We are just starting to get back up and give the devil some full blown punches. We had a woman in our Interactive Bible Study tonight that is the secretary for the local Baptist Chruch. Her daughter has been coming for some time now and is baptized in Jesus' Name and has the Holy Ghost. We are believing God that He will save her whole family. God is working, and continues to amaze and astonish us with His goodness.

FANTASTIC report, MrsBOOM! Don't you love it!

Yes, I do love it. I will never tire of hearing of the goodness of God. it is so good! Can't wait to get to church to see what God is going to do next. I read on one of the threads the other day, I can't remember where or who said it but I this is what they said. God is so good, and he is even better than that! I love it.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Was it an ultra con who questioned that? Sorry, but those dudes seem to be the sticklers for the miraculous.

(I have not been following the thread, btw, so I do not know who said what against what).

It's the cons who are defending it.

The guy with the so-called "gift of discernment" who smells something "very rotten in Denmark" is an extreme liberal.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Sorry.... I made the last post minutes before leaving the house and haven't gotten back on the computer till this afternoon. NOW I am leaving for the store for an hour or so and will be back a bit later.

But in the meantime there are MANY gifts of the spirit. One that I have been given (and it is as much of a curse as it is a blessing) is the gift of discernment. It is a gift that ranks right up there with "patience" when it comes to the pain of constantly being tested. Oh, how I would LOVE to be able to fall into emotional extacy over everything that cannot be immediately explained and not have little things like this bother me.... But they do.

When a MAJOR tragedy happens and someone seems to magically "know" what happened, what I find more amazing then the "word of knowledge" is the fact that the guy didn't know about the tragedy ahead of time! Something as big as that impresses me about as much as someone who says "and the next card you pull from the top will be the queen of diamonds" -after being given a minute to rifle through the deck and see what order they were in. But as long as the prediction is made with authority, volume, and in a scary voice, the crowds "oooohhhhhhhssss!" at the wonderment of it all. Most are afraid to even question the validity for fear of committing blasphemy. In fact the one making the statements is protected by a house of logic that precludes the possibility of questioning.

Again, I haven't read any of the posts since making my last and really need to run for a bit but I suspect I am in the extreme minority here, but be that as it may I sense something in Denmark and it ain't pretty.

We have been batting this back and forth a good bit...

But I really think there is something here that needs thoroughly addressed.

Daniel has continually tried to spin this as simply honest doubt, expressed in general.

He has quoted the Scripture "I believe...help thou mine unbelief," as if this post was comparable.

I submit that it is not.

This is not simply a general expression of skepticism in charlatans and crooks and religious hucksters. We are all disgusted by those.

This is a direct accusation against a specific testimony by a respected man of God about a service that happened at the local ssembly he pastors. It is an accusation against a specific evangelist whose name has been mentioned.

Read this statement:

"be that as it may I sense something in Denmark and it ain't pretty."

What we have here is a poster claiming to have discerned something--claiming divine revelation. He has, according to his own report, the gift of discernment. Those of you who know me know that I am not given to rash, radical statements.

But the more I think about this, the more it bothers me.

This needs to be addressed in a decisive and very pointed way by admin, or I am going to have to very seriously rethink whether I want to participate in this forum any longer.

This goes far beyond some of the things that others have been banned for, and I am very much offended by it.

If we are going to allow posters to blatantly accuse respected men of God of chicanery and lying, then look for me to bow out.

Steadfast has too much class to push this, and he has not asked me to make an issue of it. In fact, I don't think we have even discussed it.

But I believe this is a hill to die on...

There you have it.