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Re: Uncut Hair
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Maybe we can find a source we agree upon and ask them. I'm sure there are Greek communities online that can help translate. Are you up for something like that?
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*Again, I can & do translate myself. I don't need "help" translating. That's why I took Greek, so that I would not be at the mercy of others. I can read & translate on my own.
*Moreover, I have already posted numerous standard grammars/lexicons (including UBS for Translators) who directly state that the verb rendered "shorn" in 11.6 means simply, "to have one's hair cut." Anyone who translates will have to consult these same resources. Indeed, BDAG & UBS are considered the standard authorities.
*As stated above, I am currently moving in the next 2 weeks - so I will necessarily be out of pocket until next month soon (just now beginning to pack). I'd rather be forced to sit & listen to a Hillary Clinton speech than I would move....and that's really sayin' somethin' .
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of 10!! :)
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Re: Uncut Hair
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*I have already provided a link on this thread several times, but, here she goes one more time:
https://apostolicacademics.com/2016/...from-i-cor-11/
(*Note: In the near future there will be many articles on this blog concerning outward holiness apologetics-exegesis from the biblical data itself.)
*This article is replete w. lexical quotes from the most authoritative Greek resources available. Will also point out that the verb translated "have long hair" in v. 15 (κομᾷ) is a present tense *ACTIVE* voice verb - denoting on-going action.
*That is, the aspect (known as aktionsart) of this parsing of the verb in this text denotes a woman's hair is "actively" growing long (http://biblehub.com/text/1_corinthians/11-15.htm).
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Thank you for sharing this great study!
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04-09-2018, 12:27 PM
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That was good I appreciate that! Good read.
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04-09-2018, 12:29 PM
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That was good I appreciate that! Good read.
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04-09-2018, 03:05 PM
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I'm not going to answer on this one, but I got a video of the Greek scholar Marvin D. Treece . He uses a lot of the same points as RDP, that's a very established understanding amongst scholars.
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I'm sorry I meant RDP, my bad but you too!
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Re: Uncut Hair
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*If sentence diagramming the originally-inspired languages of the Bible does not "help no one," they are beyond help. Silly.
*I have already provided a link on this thread several times, but, here she goes one more time:
https://apostolicacademics.com/2016/...from-i-cor-11/
(*Note: In the near future there will be many articles on this blog concerning outward holiness apologetics-exegesis from the biblical data itself.)
*This article is replete w. lexical quotes from the most authoritative Greek resources available. Will also point out that the verb translated "have long hair" in v. 15 (κομᾷ) is a present tense *ACTIVE* voice verb - denoting on-going action.
*That is, the aspect (known as aktionsart) of this parsing of the verb in this text denotes a woman's hair is "actively" growing long (http://biblehub.com/text/1_corinthians/11-15.htm).
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This was a very good read. Thanks is there audio of you and Edward Dalcour? I listened to the debate between him and Elder Dudley. I heard on that one, that you wanted to debate him. If so I'd like to hear that? I appreciate your work, I learn a lot from listening and reading to you. I just wanted to let you know, I'm appreciative may God bless you sir!
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04-09-2018, 11:51 PM
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Re: Uncut Hair
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This was a very good read. Thanks is there audio of you and Edward Dalcour? I listened to the debate between him and Elder Dudley. I heard on that one, that you wanted to debate him. If so I'd like to hear that? I appreciate your work, I learn a lot from listening and reading to you. I just wanted to let you know, I'm appreciative may God bless you sir!
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*Thank you for your gracious & very kind words Brother. After initially agreeing to meet in formal public polemic platform Dalcour has subsequently ignored all offers for over two years now (even w. many others placing pressure on him to step up). We had originally agreed to a two-night formal polemic, but, again, he has dropped the issue and refuses to accept the innumerable offers.
*Elder Dudley flew me in a couple of days early so we could review some information prior to the debate. I thought Elder Dudley did a good job.
*God bless.
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*God bless Sister.
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Re: Uncut Hair
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*Thank you for your gracious & very kind words Brother. After initially agreeing to meet in formal public polemic platform Dalcour has subsequently ignored all offers for over two years now (even w. many others placing pressure on him to step up). We had originally agreed to a two-night formal polemic, but, again, he has dropped the issue and refuses to accept the innumerable offers.
*Elder Dudley flew me in a couple of days early so we could review some information prior to the debate. I thought Elder Dudley did a good job.
*God bless.
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Yes Mr Dalcour seemed very untruthful in what he was asserting anyway. He was only trying to use grammar and the original language to mean something it didn't. I think Elder Dudley did a good job debating him considering, he used only the English KJV for his argument. The Bible is very clear though; the book of Isaiah and the book of John are full of Oneness Scriptures. You could almost use those 2 books and have so much ammunition you couldn't use it all! Especially, when you don't have but like 3 scriptures you can use effectively to try to argue a trinity. And those 3 are explained by the 100's of others that make our message shine so bright!
All this Elohim is a plural it means 3, right when people say that I can't listen to anything else. That person is deceived!!
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