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Old 09-28-2017, 07:11 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

Any time someone goes on a seek and destroy mission to reword their debate source, I see them in a defensive position. Stick with the KJV as the source.

Also, John 1:1 is fulfilled in Matt 1....



22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,

23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.



The word of God begat/began Jesus.

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Old 09-28-2017, 07:14 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

Is this JW doctrine?....



12 Him that overcometh will I(Jesus Christ) make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
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Old 09-28-2017, 07:17 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

DB, please address my last post.

I have been asking folks for years to explain this and other like verses to me.

You are intelligent and doctrinally savvy..... you explain.

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Old 09-28-2017, 07:20 AM
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Jesus describes what God is here....


24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
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DB, please address my last post.

I have been asking folks for years to explain this and other like verses to me.

You are intelligent and doctrinally savvy..... you explain.

Thanks.
Nope, you my man are in the cat seat.

You need to explain the logos. So the logos was what?
Where is the logos in Matthew 1?

Did you post that Jesus Christ ISN'T the logos?

Teach, stop running all over the thread not proving or convincing.
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Old 09-28-2017, 08:02 AM
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Any time someone goes on a seek and destroy mission to reword their debate source, I see them in a defensive position. Stick with the KJV as the source.

Also, John 1:1 is fulfilled in Matt 1....



22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,

23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.



The word of God begat/began Jesus.
The spoken word of God was made flesh in verse 22-23.
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Jesus describes what God is here....


24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
So how did the prophets have the SPIRIT of Christ in them?

1 Peter 1:11?
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The spoken word of God was made flesh in verse 22-23.
So, Jesus was God even before His resurrection.

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Old 09-28-2017, 08:15 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

"God inside Christ"(Holy Ghost) was prior to the foundation of the world.(Christ always existed, mind/will of God)

The Holy Ghost was/is comprised of the human spirit of Christ indwelled by the Holy Spirit.

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
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So, Jesus was God even before His resurrection.

Good, and thank you for playing.
Verse 14, God(Word spoken) made flesh(Jesus).
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