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03-25-2016, 12:56 PM
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Pride of the Neighborhood
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Re: Terry Shock Leaving Alexandria
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Bro, you need to free yourself of this burden.
Man, go buy a three wheel Goldwing or Harley and get back to riding. Do something! Jimmy Swaggart, liberal or ultra conservative? Jim Bakker, liberal or conservative? Earl Paulk, liberal or conservative? Ted Haggard, liberal or conservative? Eddie Long, liberal or conservative? Roman Catholic priests raping children? Liberal or conservative?
Bro, you think because a guy teaches his church family to abstain from playing jacks it causes him to molest children, commit adultery, or look at porn?
CC1, are you Lois? 
CC1, I think you are so use to slamming "Old Time Pentecost" and Conservative Pentecost you are missing something called Snakes in Suits, I suggest you buy the book and read the book. PLEASE. Pretty please with liberal on top? Also read the Allure of Toxic Leaders, and Mistakes Were Made, But Not By Me.
Bro, it is like you have some sort of Pentecostal PTSD, and find it's your mission (like Lois) to broad brush a whole group. Dude, not everyone forces people to do what they do. Even the guys who are heavy handed love their wives, love their children, love their church family. Never even think of anything nasty.
I must say this, forums have taught me one special lesson. Ring a bell, and the dog will salivate.
Thank you Brother Jim Yohe for the invite years ago.  |
You're the Robert Byrd of AFF.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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03-25-2016, 01:52 PM
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Re: Terry Shock Leaving Alexandria
People sin because they are drawn away of their own lusts, and lust, when it has conceived, brings forth sin, and sin, when it is finished, brings forth death.
The ONLY reason anyone in any church fornicates, commits adultery, or whatever, is because they have refused to crucify the lusts and affections of THEIR flesh.
It's not and never about what kind of church they go to. Each person is personally responsible for their OWN actions, before God.
Unless the minister is from the church of Satan and is actively teaching people that they should sin, no church in the world, of any stripe, is going to openly declare the necessity of sin as a lifestyle.
Sure, behind the scenes, actions speak louder than sermons, but it's not like the people involved somehow think they're not sinning when they involve themselves in fornication, adultery, or etc.
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03-25-2016, 03:08 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: Terry Shock Leaving Alexandria
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You're the Robert Byrd of AFF.
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That makes you what? The Jeremiah Wright of AFF?
Or maybe the Al Sharpton?
lol
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03-25-2016, 04:11 PM
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Pride of the Neighborhood
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Re: Terry Shock Leaving Alexandria
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Originally Posted by votivesoul
People sin because they are drawn away of their own lusts, and lust, when it has conceived, brings forth sin, and sin, when it is finished, brings forth death.
The ONLY reason anyone in any church fornicates, commits adultery, or whatever, is because they have refused to crucify the lusts and affections of THEIR flesh.
It's not and never about what kind of church they go to. Each person is personally responsible for their OWN actions, before God.
Unless the minister is from the church of Satan and is actively teaching people that they should sin, no church in the world, of any stripe, is going to openly declare the necessity of sin as a lifestyle.
Sure, behind the scenes, actions speak louder than sermons, but it's not like the people involved somehow think they're not sinning when they involve themselves in fornication, adultery, or etc.
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Great post
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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03-25-2016, 04:14 PM
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Pride of the Neighborhood
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Re: Terry Shock Leaving Alexandria
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Originally Posted by Esaias
That makes you what? The Jeremiah Wright of AFF?
Or maybe the Al Sharpton?
lol
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You don't get it. You won't get it.
But I'll play your game---you'd be the Oliver Stone of AFF
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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03-25-2016, 05:22 PM
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Re: Terry Shock Leaving Alexandria
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Originally Posted by Esaias
That makes you what? The Jeremiah Wright of AFF?
Or maybe the Al Sharpton?
lol
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No, he is more like the General Jose Guillermo Garcia of AFF.
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03-25-2016, 05:28 PM
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Re: Terry Shock Leaving Alexandria
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You don't get it. You won't get it.
But I'll play your game---you'd be the Oliver Stone of AFF
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I get it!
You are the General Efrain Rios Montt of AFF! 
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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03-25-2016, 05:42 PM
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Re: Terry Shock Leaving Alexandria
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You don't get it. You won't get it.
But I'll play your game---you'd be the Oliver Stone of AFF
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I don't get it? You equated an evangelist with a racist, white sheet wearing Democrat. What is there "to get" that wasn't gotten already? Got it?
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03-25-2016, 06:09 PM
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Re: Terry Shock Leaving Alexandria
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
You're the Robert Byrd of AFF.
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You kind of missed my whole point which was that whether a church is progressive or ultra conservative doesn't determine if the leadership and congregation are engaged in sexual sin. I used Junction City as an example of a church at the other end of the spectrum from Cornerstone that had that issue.
But yes when I was growing up in the 70's there was a lot of fooling around with the young people in the UPC churches I was around that didn't have women with cut hair, tv's, or people going to movies. Going "parking" and "making out" was the entertainment!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-25-2016, 06:36 PM
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Re: Terry Shock Leaving Alexandria
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Originally Posted by CC1
You kind of missed my whole point which was that whether a church is progressive or ultra conservative doesn't determine if the leadership and congregation are engaged in sexual sin. I used Junction City as an example of a church at the other end of the spectrum from Cornerstone that had that issue.
But yes when I was growing up in the 70's there was a lot of fooling around with the young people in the UPC churches I was around that didn't have women with cut hair, tv's, or people going to movies. Going "parking" and "making out" was the entertainment!
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Whew, so if they were skating, bowling, going to ball games, watching television, etc they would of kept their virginity?
Wow, I think I can hear Christopher Hitchens laughing from Hell.
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