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Old 06-02-2012, 02:33 PM
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Yes, Timmy, that is hilarious.
Way to totally ignore the point.
Hey, you got the "shooter" part right, at least.
Name-calling is against the rules.
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I will be disputing that. You might also be descended from Eve and the Serpent, through Cain (Scripture verifies this in many places) or, there is ample evidence of an eighth day creation, as reflected in Scripture's delineation of men into "ish" or "adam." This delineation has not survived translation, but may be seen in the primitive texts, or by clicking "lexicon" in the relevant verses online.

This also clarifies who Cain could have married in the Land of Nod.
We surely did not all descend from Adam and Eve.
Did we all descend from Noah?
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:35 PM
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Did we all descend from Noah?
unless there was someone who could tread water all that time
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:37 AM
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Re: A Picture of Jesus

Hey, I don't know that we didn't all descend from A&E,
and that was my point. Scripture reading in a vacuum aside,
No one else does, either. You can dance around the point
all you like, restate it, whatever.

I'm not really aware of the
serpent seed argument @ Gen 4:1,
and honestly don't really care.

"All humans come from A&E"
is a great beginning story,
I don't have a problem with it.
Anyone wishing a more complete
understanding might explore
the meanings of "Adam,"
"Ish," "Geber," etc.
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:52 AM
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Did we all descend from Noah?
I guess we all had to descend from someone who's at least 1/4 Noah, yes.
And for the record, I'm not buying serpent seed as a doctrine, myself;
I think sex with another race is much more likely,
and that serpent seed is meant more spiritually.

This would mean that Cain, like all of us, has
two fathers, a physical and a spiritual one-
-but doesn't rule out that satan could have been Cain's
only father, ones interpretation of Gen 4:1 notwithstanding.
Saying "there can be no doubt" does not make a thing true,
and in fact makes one sound like they're trying to be "scientific," imo.

There exists reasonable doubt, by scholars intent
on the truth, who love God. Beware anyone who
tells you "there can be no doubt" about anything, imo.
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:03 PM
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I guess we all had to descend from someone who's at least 1/4 Noah, yes.
And for the record, I'm not buying serpent seed as a doctrine, myself;
I think sex with another race is much more likely,
and that serpent seed is meant more spiritually.

This would mean that Cain, like all of us, has
two fathers, a physical and a spiritual one-
-but doesn't rule out that satan could have been Cain's
only father, ones interpretation of Gen 4:1 notwithstanding.
Saying "there can be no doubt" does not make a thing true,
and in fact makes one sound like they're trying to be "scientific," imo.

There exists reasonable doubt, by scholars intent
on the truth, who love God. Beware anyone who
tells you "there can be no doubt" about anything, imo.
Did Noah descend from Adam?
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Old 06-03-2012, 02:24 PM
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Did Noah descend from Adam?
Well, I think that point gets lost when you
see that the descendants of Noah married
descendants of "not-Noah."

So yes, while we all have some Noah in us,
you are trying to postulate that we all
descend from him 100%, which we do not.

The Q of "Do we all descend from A&E is easily
answered in Nod, by Cain, w/o magical thinking.
This also clarifies Adam and Ish, although
a better explanation might come along, for all I know.
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:20 PM
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Well, I think that point gets lost when you
see that the descendants of Noah married
descendants of "not-Noah."

So yes, while we all have some Noah in us,
you are trying to postulate that we all
descend from him 100%, which we do not.

The Q of "Do we all descend from A&E is easily
answered in Nod, by Cain, w/o magical thinking.
This also clarifies Adam and Ish, although
a better explanation might come along, for all I know.
So, there were survivors of the flood besides Noah and his family?
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:15 AM
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So, there were survivors of the flood besides Noah and his family?
according to the book of adam(s) adam and eve had close to 60 kids. the kids married each other, and from them the population grew. so cain married his sister.

so i am sure that some how noahs kids was related to their wifes.

people get uptight and say they would have never done such a thing, but yes they did, infact they did so all the way up until God commanded them not to after the exodus.

if im not mistaken Othniel caleb's brother ( was given caleb's daughter in marriage) so he married his niece
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So, there were survivors of the flood besides Noah and his family?
No, the point is that even the survivors, Noah's married kids, contained
genes from their parents, who were not Noah.
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