Survey About Doctrinal Beliefs

[OldPathsII]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Why judge others as to what the do? Is that any better than someone that covers an ugly zit? Do you comb your hair? Do you bathe? Shave? Shampoo or use soap? Aftershave? There once was a generation that made it as hard as possible to follow God. Then Jesus came and delivered us from the Law..then came a generation that tried to burden people with rules as silly as not covering a zit

The comb your hair, hairspray argument is always the automatic comeback to this but at least MissBratfield was sharp enough to stay away from that one. You cannot compare the basic prinicples of personal hygiene to the decorating of oneself in order to look more attractive and noticeable. I will say this, if you comb your hair in such a way as to attract attention to yourself, you're headed down the wrong path.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

His initial post and this is the wrong thread for this.

By "first post", I was referring to Adino's initial post. And no one cares if a thread gets hijacked. That's happened hundreds of times at least, and usually over something slightly less important, like shoes.

We have a response required on our part.

Yes, and he clarified that several times throughout the thread. I fail to see the problem, ergo, I fail to see where Adino said that he didn't believe in repentance. I'm only quibbling over it with you because you said you agreed with Ferd.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

By "first post", I was referring to Adino's initial post. And no one cares if a thread gets hijacked. That's happened hundreds of times at least, and usually over something slightly less important, like shoes.



Yes, and he clarified that several times throughout the thread. I fail to see the problem, ergo, I fail to see where Adino said that he didn't believe in repentance. I'm only quibbling over it with you because you said you agreed with Ferd.

Good. I still agree with Ferd. Take it up with him on the other thread.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Really? It looked pretty plain to me. I don't know what else to give you, but the same post. The same spirit works all (I Cor 12:4), but we must receive God's Spirit to operate in the Spirit. It's a no-brainer.

Wow... if that's plain for you, I don't want to tell you either

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Good. I still agree with Ferd. Take it up with him on the other thread.

Wow, you're awfully bossy. I'd rather take it up with you, and find out why you think Adino doesn't believe in repentance, but if you're not up to it, I understand.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Wow, you're awfully bossy.

I learned it from you.

I'd rather take it up with you, and find out why you think Adino doesn't believe in repentance, but if you're not up to it, I understand.

I'm just not going to discuss it on this thread, that's all.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Wow... if that's plain for you, I don't want to tell you either

Do you operate in any of the gifts?

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

OP2 - the lib split that I was referring to on the forum was the establishment of the Apostolic Identity Forum.
Now let me weigh in with my two cents.
I have too much personal experience with friends and family giving up certain portions of the old landmarks/standards/identity, whatever you want to call it.
In my experience, the first generation is usually ok and they are able to hang on to the basic doctrine, be it either 1-step or 3-step.
However, when you get to the 2nd or 3rd generation, they become like every other religious group out there.
By this I mean that they go to the "sinner's prayer" religion.
To be bluntly honest, I do not totally understand why this happens, but it does.
That is why I have raised my family the way that I have.
Not because I believe that everything I do is a Biblical mandate, but because I want to do the best I can to raise my family to have the same, or better, experience with God than I do.
If others have differing opinions, that's fine.

No, it's not a "Lib split" at all. It's just an alternative and there are several that are active both places. It is not, in any way, a "Split" and it's not just made up of "Libs."

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Really?

Do your children hear you praying and praying in the Spirit on a regular basis?

Do they hear anyone praying in the Spirit on a regular basis?

Do they know what a prayer room is?

What kind of sermons do they hear, or do they never hear sermons and always go to kid-oriented ministries?

Do your children witness people praising God in song, joy and dance, sometimes?

Do they witness people worshiping the Lord in joy and tears, hands lifted high or face bowed to the ground?

These questions are not asked accusingly.


You see, since coming to the place where I believe what I believe, it has been my experience that here in Orlando, my best chance for my family to know and experience God by the means mentioned above pretty much requires that I stay at my current UPCI church.

The thing is that this church is not even one that would be considered "ultra-conservative" (or else I would leave), but God manifests His Presence here and I want my family to know the Presence of God in the ways mentioned above, and in other ways that I haven't experienced yet.

So I keep attending my UPCI church, digesting meat and spitting out the bones, so that when the Lord blesses me with a family, we have a place where we can go to worship Him.

My children hear me praying, my children pray with me, my children see me feeding the poor, caring for neighbors, have dinner with sinners, they see our family proclaiming justice, helping the needy, living life as a Gospel family, they hear the Good News in a way that it was intended -- Good News. They are discipled in The Way, I've entrusted them ultimately to God, who cares for them and loves them even deeper than I ever could. They will hopefully not have to endure a judgmental culture, one with uniforms and vacuous sanctification, one where godly living is where the rubber meats the road, not focused on their closet or wardrobe. They will see all believers and followers of Jesus as family, not as unfortunate souls bound for hell, apostates and satan's army. They will view unbelieving people as image bearers, who Christ died for and loves, who without the cross, are really no different than you or I. They have friends outside the Bubble. They've learned to live life in a such a way that radically reflects God's graciousness and goodness.

They may never see an aisle runner, be told to speak in tongues on the spot, or have to have their dresses measured by a pastor, but I think they will be just fine

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by notofworks

No, it's not a "Lib split" at all. It's just an alternative and there are several that are active both places. It is not, in any way, a "Split" and it's not just made up of "Libs."