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Old 12-04-2010, 12:09 PM
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Well, I think you are wrong!
I would say that any faith that is based on Jesus Christ is not wrong.
Different maybe.
Not totally developed.
But not wrong.
God honors faith, even faith that is sometimes not totally developed in a biblical manner.
There is room in this ship for David Koresh, after all.

You know Paul labels various judaizing folks in Galatians as false brethren.
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No, she didn't! Mama Alvear didn't just send me to my room!

That's why I have my own office
you need to come visit me in Brazil!
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I'd like that.

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There is room in this ship for David Koresh, after all.

You know Paul labels various judaizing folks in Galatians as false brethren.
Good point DA. However, Koresh went totally against scripture in his "doctrine". His religion was set up for his personal gratification and pleasures. His God was himself and not Christ.
A far cry from what we are discussing here.
Sometimes when discussing doctrinal issues, I am reminded of a Supreme Court Justice who when trying to define pornography stated that he had difficulty, but he knew it when he saw it.
It is the same when I am speaking with someone about God or the gospel, I know who is interested in sincerely seeking God and who is not.
You can tell a lot about someone from their spirit.
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Re: DKB's Impassioned Plea For Iranian Branhamite?

Many "message" followers simple believe Branham was a man of God like T.W. Barnes was, that he gave several prophecies for today and that he pointed them towards a greater biblical truth like Calvinists do with John Calvin or Methodists with Weslyism
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BTW william Branham is not the missionary in question. This thread isn't really about whether any of his doctrines were heretical
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BTW william Branham is not the missionary in question. This thread isn't really about whether any of his doctrines were heretical
There is no missionary but a national pastor ... and yes, one of the themes within this thread is Branhamism and how "Apostolic" it is ... or whether "Jesus name" baptism automatically makes you part of the club ...

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Many "message" followers simple believe Branham was a man of God like T.W. Barnes was, that he gave several prophecies for today and that he pointed them towards a greater biblical truth like Calvinists do with John Calvin or Methodists with Weslyism
Message followers by virtue were influenced greatly and primarily by his theology or "greater truths" ... and as proven indisputably ... their influential leader did not perceive or define himself as trinitarian or oneness .... his mode of baptism placating both sides ... and rejecting the classic Pentecostal Parhamite doctrine of evidentiary tongues ....


then there's the fruity stuff.

Sans, this pastor's theology ... which admittedly we know little .... only that a Branham ministry claims he accepts Branham as a prophet and his teachings ..... and does not hold UPCI doctrine ....

the topic of conversation still revolves on whether mode of baptism makes you part of Apostolic revival ... or yes, even a "brother" ... especially to a man like DKB and those he leads in his fellowship.

Hypothetical: If TD Jakes was, God forbid, in a dire situation ... would the comunique read the same? Would there be a comunique? He baptizes in Jesus name, right?

This fellowship has ostacized Acts 2:38 believers for much less and erased their memory from their publishing house ....

Yet to the non-informed laity ... see FACEBOOK .... we have a Jesus name preacher .... which they equate to Apostolic .... on the verge on an execution .... posting and praying for the Apostolic preacher ... we know little about ...

not because they shouldn't pray, we should for all persecuted brethren , but also emotionally charged because what they perceive him to be ....

The vetting process has changed since I left a couple a years ago, I guess *shrug* Or maybe the propaganda was swallowed whole
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There is no missionary but a national pastor ... and yes, one of the themes within this thread is Branhamism and how "Apostolic" it is ... or whether "Jesus name" baptism automatically makes you part of the club ...

Classic, Praxeas. Keep up, my boy.
The point is, you guys are talking about William Branham. You don't know what this pastor really believes and can't label him a cultist because William Branham had aberrant doctrines
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  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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Message followers by virtue were influenced greatly and primarily by his theology or "greater truths" ... and as proven indisputably ... their influential leader did not perceive or define himself as trinitarian or oneness .... his mode of baptism placating both sides ... and rejecting the classic Pentecostal Parhamite doctrine of evidentiary tongues ....


then there's the fruity stuff.

Sans, this pastor's theology ... which admittedly we know little .... only that a Branham ministry claims he accepts Branham as a prophet and his teachings ..... and does not hold UPCI doctrine ....

the topic of conversation still revolves on whether mode of baptism makes you part of Apostolic revival ... or yes, even a "brother" ... especially to a man like DKB and those he leads in his fellowship.

Hypothetical: If TD Jakes was, God forbid, in a dire situation ... would the comunique read the same? Would there be a comunique? He baptizes in Jesus name, right?

This fellowship has ostacized Acts 2:38 believers for much less and erased their memory from their publishing house ....

Yet to the non-informed laity ... see FACEBOOK .... we have a Jesus name preacher .... which they equate to Apostolic .... on the verge on an execution .... posting and praying for the Apostolic preacher ... we know little about ...

not because they shouldn't pray, we should for all persecuted brethren , but also emotionally charged because what they perceive him to be ....
Once again I see nothing about what this pastor teaches. I've known a lot of Branham followers and they were all Oneness and baptized In Jesus name and believed in speaking in tongues.
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