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Old 05-07-2011, 04:35 AM
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Re: Mark Barnaby has resigned his church? Left UPC

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I heard that they were having a Holy Ghost Crusade and All You Can Eat Snow Crab Legs Night.

Also, kids pray for free...
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Old 10-10-2011, 04:24 PM
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Re: Mark Barnaby has resigned his church? Left UPC

My husband and I joined last Sunday and then I found this website when my husband asked me to look up the pastor. When we asked some people in the congregation why others left they responded "The wolves were seperated?" But the pastor told us that everyone just left at once because of division. Never a mention of what was said on this forum. I feel that if you are repented or innocent you will have no problem in admitting the truth. I just wish I had got the truth when asked.
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Old 10-15-2011, 10:49 PM
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My husband and I joined last Sunday and then I found this website when my husband asked me to look up the pastor. When we asked some people in the congregation why others left they responded "The wolves were seperated?" But the pastor told us that everyone just left at once because of division. Never a mention of what was said on this forum. I feel that if you are repented or innocent you will have no problem in admitting the truth. I just wish I had got the truth when asked.
peaceofmind,

I am sorry you had to find out the facts on the internet. Not very good for peace of mind (pun intended).

Better you find out now than not at all. Whether you want to plug into this church is a decision that only you and your family can make but I know what my stance would be. While all human beings are flawed I want one a lot less flawed than this to be my spiritual leader. Particularly if there has not been any kind of accountability, repentence, restoration, etc. I will be praying for your situation.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:19 PM
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Re: Mark Barnaby has resigned his church? Left UPC

sad to say but as you look online for sexual predators in your neighborhood, you might need to check the court records in your state to see if the pastor or his wife has any felonious behavior that you would need to know.

One in Missouri received home missions status, had a $25K warrant out for their arrest and couldn't even make it to the home missions meeting due to pleading guilty to writing checks on a closed checking account. Now that is one shouldn't be handling the church funds.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:38 PM
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sad to say but as you look online for sexual predators in your neighborhood, you might need to check the court records in your state to see if the pastor or his wife has any felonious behavior that you would need to know.

One in Missouri received home missions status, had a $25K warrant out for their arrest and couldn't even make it to the home missions meeting due to pleading guilty to writing checks on a closed checking account. Now that is one shouldn't be handling the church funds.
Sometimes I think we put pastors in un-accountable positions in the UPC. The pastor rules supreme. At least in the AoG they have church boards. Sometimes the church boards hinder good pastors, especially boards that are dominated by a prominent family in the congregation. But sometimes AoG pastors, through manipulation, are able to get a board who shruck their duties and become yes men.
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Old 12-21-2011, 06:12 AM
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Evan a bad board is likely safer than a single ruler. Some accountability is better than having a single man who says he accountable to "god", yet will not listen to anyone.
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