Thank God for Miracles!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by mfblume

How about each perspective giving scripture that shows an identical example, and not just a statement that one may think applies towards a situation?

Luke 10:30 and ff. - the responsibility of Christians to aid and not upbraid the unfortunate traveler. Notice also how the responsibility for the "collision" is laid squarely on the "thieves" and not upon God's actions or perceived inactions.

Further, notice how the "Holiness" people who were spared the ravages of the thieves (perhaps from the prayers they had just completed offering in Jerusalem?) were not treated with respect by our Narrator just because they got home safely. In fact, there is an implied rebuke here for the "Holiness" people.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by DAII

Same Pelagian group that rejoices in fake lawyers bringing down this board with one fictional phone call ... their paradigms are their gods ... it blinds them from their self-deception.

Perhaps a different Jason? Dunno.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Perhaps a different Jason?

That Jason ... is on the periphery of the Enseyite mafia ... Makes them collectively smarter.

Not sure they really understand his theology ... if they did, they'd excommunicate him as well.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Cindy, stuff like this needs to be rebuked immediately. This represents a very horrible outlook. Mizpeh and Esther are both arguing that God burned an innocent family of four ALIVE just to vindicate the "Oneness doctrine."

Meanwhile they ignore the implications of Nathaniel Urshan's own "failure" in this area at the St. Louis General Conference many years back. After that Conference, why didn't the whole UPC "repent" as Mizpeh has demanded?

This represents such a medieval and corrupt view of God and a senselessly absurd view of Oneness that Oneness people everywhere MUST stand up against it.

Pel have you lost your mind?

Pel that is a lie!

Your issue is perhaps "oneness doctine" since I never mentioned it.

I am through discussing this with you. I have never seen so many ignorant, distorted post. Apparently I am posting with some unbelievers.

Casino prayers? Lottery prayers? Ignorant reasoning. IMO

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Esther

Pel have you lost your mind?

Pel that is a lie!

Your issue is perhaps "oneness doctine" since I never mentioned it.

I am through discussing this with you. I have never seen so many ignorant, distorted post. Apparently I am posting with some unbelievers.

Casino prayers? Lottery prayers? Ignorant reasoning. IMO

Pel's ... an unbeliever.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Yes. According to Esther's account, she is responsible for the deaths of the family of four from Parker.

Esther, did you really have to burn them alive? Wasn't that a bit over the top? Couldn't you have shown more mercy?

You know Pel this is a pretty low post!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by DAII

Pel's ... an unbeliever.

Apparently in prayers being answered, unless you happen to hit the jackpot.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Esther

Apparently in prayers being answered, unless you happen to hit the jackpot.

All prayers are answered ... sometimes and even many times .... the answer is no.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Mizpeh, give me one instance in the bible where God kills an innocent family in order to get someone's attention. I won't hold my breath for the answer. I would pass out.

I didn't say that God killed an innocent family to get someone's attention. I said that a close call with death, the niece and those in her car, can bring a person to their senses. How easily you distort what is being said!

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Cindy, stuff like this needs to be rebuked immediately. This represents a very horrible outlook. Mizpeh and Esther are both arguing that God burned an innocent family of four ALIVE just to vindicate the "Oneness doctrine."

I was being sarcastic, Pel. That is why I put the "smack in the head" smiley because I was replying sarcastically to something you said that I found to be very callous and unfair.

This represents such a medieval and corrupt view of God and a senselessly absurd view of Oneness that Oneness people everywhere MUST stand up against it.

What? A view that God answers prayer?

No one is saying that the family that died deserved it. Nor is anyone saying that God killed the family that died. No one is making judgements concerning the family that died but you and Smith are making many false accusations about Esther and others!