Thinking of Leaving the UPC

[ILuvFPC]

Originally Posted by COOPER

OOOHHH you watch.....after these holiness people get out of church they will be even more fired up, un-kind and bold to proclaim one is hell bound for not keeping "standards of UPCI holiness"

holiness has nothing to do with the upc.. it has to do with the Bible!

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Eastman, you are just like Bill Clinton. You are always skating around the points. Now one is really throwing darts, but you and Epley. The reason I say that is that you put all the libs in the hell catagory and the cons in the "saved" one. Now of course I am not saying that you put them in the "saved" one know that they have sinned or anything I am saying in general.

You and Epley get on here and tell us we are wrong and such. Some have said we serve a "different" Jesus than you all. That is Bogus. Because we choose to not be judgmental and legalistic we are hung up like a dart board and punctured by our own breatheren. One of the posters on AFF has a quote and it serve to be true here. It goes a little like this, "the Sauls amoung kill the Davids amoung us." You all are sooooo caught in telling us we are wrong and have never considered the possiblilty that you are stepping in to the legalistic mode that you all say you are trying to avoid.

JT, you really are a piece of work you know that? When did I ever say you were going to hell? Yes, I'm conservative, but God is the ultimate judge. I have not likened you to anyone such as Bill Clinton or Michael Jackson and you come on this forum attacking me? I don't know what your problem is, but I assure you it isn't with me, it is with the word of God that you like to twist to suit your own purpose, and frankly your problem then lies between you and God. Not me. BTW, you are very legalistic when you try to pervert the word of God to suit yourself. I know what it takes to be saved, do you?

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

JT, you really are a piece of work you know that? When did I ever say you were going to hell? Yes, I'm conservative, but God is the ultimate judge. I have not likened you to anyone such as Bill Clinton or Michael Jackson and you come on this forum attacking me? I don't know what your problem is, but I assure you it isn't with me, it is with the word of God that you like to twist to suit your own purpose, and frankly your problem then lies between you and God. Not me. BTW, you are very legalistic when you try to pervert the word of God to suit yourself. I know what it takes to be saved, do you?

I never you told us we are going to hell. I said you put all the libs in the catagory. Look your actions speak louder than your words. let me ask you this look in your heart and answer the question do you think I and some other libs are going down in flames? I am not faulting you because you are a con. what I am saying is that you all talk so down to us sometimes. As if you are standing higher than us. I likened you to Bill and Michael as a joke. I am not attacking you, I am pointing out how I feel you are treating us. I am not twisting scripture. In your eyes I am,but I am reading and believing what I see there in. Legalistic is judgmentalism. Perverting the word of God is wrong, but neither of us are doing this. We are arguing our points. I know what takes to be saved. I have done it, but it goes beyond Acts 2. It goes into everyday life. How you live for God is the drivng force.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

I never you told us we are going to hell. I said you put all the libs in the catagory. Look your actions speak louder than your words. let me ask you this look in your heart and answer the question do you think I and some other libs are going down in flames? I am not faulting you because you are a con. what I am saying is that you all talk so down to us sometimes. As if you are standing higher than us. I likened you to Bill and Michael as a joke. I am not attacking you, I am pointing out how I feel you are treating us. I am not twisting scripture. In your eyes I am,but I am reading and believing what I see there in. Legalistic is judgmentalism. Perverting the word of God is wrong, but neither of us are doing this. We are arguing our points. I know what takes to be saved. I have done it, but it goes beyond Acts 2. It goes into everyday life. How you live for God is the drivng force.

I heard my name was invoked????????????????

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I heard my name was invoked????????????????

Because of action not specific words

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Because of action not specific words

You have never seen me act so it must be words you are confused about more than one thing it seems.

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by ILuvFPC

holiness has nothing to do with the upc.. it has to do with the Bible!

Amen

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

You have never seen me act so it must be words you are confused about more than one thing it seems.

ok guess you got me there

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Religious Nut

Hi everybody. I'm new here.

I attend a UPC church, and have for years, and for months now, I have been becoming increasingly disturbed with several of the doctrines

Thanks in advance for all of your suggestions.

How was church this week end?

Originally Posted by COOPER

How was church this week end?

It was actually real good. The Lord actually spoke to me about my situation through what the Pastor said. God has done that through other preachers as well lately.