Chester Wright's Letter to the UPC!!!!!

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

You called his writings a "mess," something "not worth the webspace." You stated his position is "very misled" and his thinking is "severely misguided."

Perhaps bash is a little strong, but you still slapped him around a little.

By the way . . . did you even read the articles? Not saying you didn't, but your first response made it seem as though you didn't look at them.

Again, I did not bash the man. You cannot see that in my posts. I did oppose his "postition", my own words that YOU quoted.
I did state that his "thinking" is misled. Again, that is not him, but a thought process.
Your comments are inaccurate regarding my posting.
In reply: yes, I have read the article. I read it shortly after it was posted which was some time back.
NI

Originally Posted by Rico

Sounds good, but you don't have even one scripture that says I have to love a preacher to make heaven.

1 John 4:20-21 KJV
(20) If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
(21) And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.


You're the one that used the term "preacher hater."

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

Of course, NI would be complimenting the website and CM would be a hero of the faith if he had written against television. But since NI doesn't like what CM wrote, NI bashes the article and the minister. Nice.


Yah, not so much. Where do you get the idea that preachers are what save you?

Are you misinterpreting scripture: "...foolishness of preaching men would be saved?" Because it's speaking of an act - preaching . . . not a person.

The Grace, Mercy and Love of God is what's going to save me . . . not a preacher.

Romans 10:13-15 KJV
(13) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
(14) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
(15) And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Originally Posted by Rico

You guys are hilarious. You act as if the world was a wonderful place to live in before television was invented and all the world's evils can be attributed to tv programs. Life is much better today, even with tv, than it ever was in centuries gone by.

I am hilarious - and you are delusional.

[chaotic_resolve]

Originally Posted by HappyPastor2

Romans 10:13-15 KJV
(13) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
(14) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
(15) And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

And your point is? If you're trying to connect verse 13 to verse 14 and say that preachers are indeed what saves you, then you're mistaken. Read 15. If you want to believe that a ~man~ can save you, which I don't because only God can save - but whatever, then it's really actually the people who ~sent~ the preacher, not the preacher.

[chaotic_resolve]

Originally Posted by OGIA

I've never read "any way possible" in the mission statement. *shrugs*

Article 1 of the General Constitution in the UPCI Manual states (and I quote)
"The purpose of the United Pentecostal Church International is to carry the whole gospel to the whole world by the whole church; to establish an effective organized effort; to encourage the opening and establishing of new works; to evangelize the world by every means possible; and to produce and maintain a clean ministry and fellowship."

Again I ask the question . . .

Why is the General Assembly of the UPCI even debating television? Why is HQ getting involved?? It should be left up to each local assembly - not dictated upon everyone by HQ!

If this resolution does not pass, someone needs to offer a new resolution demanding that HQ strip that sentence from Article 1, because obviously it's just empty rhetoric not meant to be taken literally or seriously.

[chaotic_resolve]

*bump*

[Rico]

Originally Posted by HappyPastor2

1 John 4:20-21 KJV
(20) If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
(21) And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.


You're the one that used the term "preacher hater."

I was given the label because I don't trust preachers. Don't you read?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by HappyPastor2

I am hilarious - and you are delusional.

Really? So life was better back before electricity was discovered, before automobiles were invented, before air conditioning was invented, etc. etc.? If you think it was then you've lost your mind.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Thad

HEre is Chester WRight's Letter to the UPC about the direction it's going and the TV Issue!








http://www.apostoliciron.com/content.html




Tell me what you think.

Also, I couldn't post the actual letter - If anyone can do it, please do so.



your replies - thanks

Funny, Chester Wright, pro TV, now the hero of The Borg.