Obama Bows to Japanese Emperor - Page 12

oletime · #**111** 11-17-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

If Obama goes to Britain and meets the Queen you can be sure he will bow too...

nice try prax, but he already had that chance ,when he went through a line with the saudi king ,he bent over low enought to kiss his ring,except an aide ran a good photo block, but its on the internet anyway and barely nodded his head to the queen. his worst trait is his marxism tendencies, no surprise because his father was a card carrying commie and his mother was a commie lover in th 50s.socialism is in his blood period !

Light · #**112** 11-17-2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

A friend of mine and her husband were missionaries to Japan at one time, and so I emailed her and asked about Obama's bow. Here is her answer:

"Interesting! I don't know about the Saudi bow thing, but this would be the "appropriate" bow to the Emperor - notice his eyes are down cast - not bowing while looking up - that's in poor taste to anyone - especially to the emp. My guess is that he had advisors that instructed him on Japanese/Emp. etiquette. I think you're right, though - it probably looks exaggerated because of his height. What's the deal w/ the Saudi king??"

Blows post #39 out of the water doesn't it.

notofworks · #**113** 11-17-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

Sometimes I think conservatives want gun blazing redneck in office.

Of course they do!

Aquila · #**114** 11-17-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

LOL - - he might kick them out like he did in the Bible!

Jesus told the disciples to respect the Pharisee's authority because they sit in the seat of Moses. Jesus and Paul both were for offering respect for authority and those who held it.

MissBrattified · #**115** 11-18-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

Sometimes I think conservatives want gun blazing redneck in office. There is such a thing as statesmanship. Being a statesman means that we are polite and respect a dignified protocol and bearing.

Let's imagine that a leader came to the United States and there was a press conference. It's customary to stand, walk to the President, shake his hand, position one's self behind the podium, and thank the President for the privilege of being allowed to speak and deliver what you have to say. Imagine if the President introduced a leader and when he did the leader didn't shake his hand, make eye contact, or say thank yous... but rather simply took the podium and offered his rant. It would be seen as being rude and inconsiderate. That's how conservatives want our Presidents to be.

Also, conservatives have major short comings in the brains category, especially when it comes to culture. For example, because bowing means surrender to the Western world they fail to see what it means in Japan. Bowing is much like a hand shake, polite wave, salute, or gesture of respect. For the early church it was a "holy kiss" as can be seen in many Middle Eastern nations today. Consider these pictures....

If Obama's bowing to a Japanese President is demonstrating that he is weak and has surrendered... Bush's observance of the cultural norms of Arabia must mean he's gay!

This is an example of Conservatives thinking that the America people are stupid and lie, lie, lie to us constantly to keep mental midgets among us in a heightened state of emotional frenzy... all so they don't loose their voter base.

Oh, my GOODNESS!!! I would MUCH prefer that he BOWED, rather than kiss and hold hands. Weird!!!!

Esther · #**116** 11-18-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Light

Blows post #39 out of the water doesn't it.

How so?

Renda's post was quoting an expert.

Praxeas · #**117** 11-18-2009, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

shouldn't he bow to the Queen?
isn't that protocol and courtesy?

I think that is protocol for the British.....does any head of state from other nations bow to Obama?

Bowing to kings is a sign of submission

Aquila · #**118** 11-18-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

I think that is protocol for the British.....does any head of state from other nations bow to Obama?

Bowing to kings is a sign of submission

Bowing isn't a custom of our culture unless one is a theater actor.

Here, if the President walks into a room all stand to attention. Senior military officers may salute given circumstance.

When foreign leaders visit the White House they often sit in the reception room and when the President walks in all stand to attention. The President normally approaches them, shakes their hands, and welcomes them.

Aquila · #**119** 11-18-2009, 10:36 AM

I honestly cannot believe that so many Americans are so stupid they can't see that it is a cultural thing. Also remember, the Japanese are VERY into their cultural traditions. If the President didn't properly greet their leader it would humiliate the entire nation.

Light · #**120** 11-18-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Esther

How so?

Renda's post was quoting an expert.

What expert? My goodness don't you ever check to see if your facts are correct.The guy was a guest on ABC and he is a right wing republican wacko.

For once do a little research, and no it wasn't a quote. She was insinuating that ABC agreed that the bow was inappropriate and done wrong.